Perhaps you do not understand optimization. It's not always about getting to the bare minimum, it's about being able to improve things.

Oh. I get it.

You want to use my money.

 

Oh. I get it.

You want to use my money.

Are we both talking about the same thing, Jazz Fusion?

 

https://scitechdaily.com/inside-the-tokamak-scientists-crack-the-code-to-stable-fusion-energy/

I feel like we're only 10 years away from stable, controlled, practical fusion.

 

https://scitechdaily.com/inside-the-tokamak-scientists-crack-the-code-to-stable-fusion-energy/

I feel like we're only 10 years away from stable, controlled, practical fusion.

It's pretty cool they have a good model to predict the effects but this type of plasma instability is and was a known factor.

I feel like we're only 30 years away from stable, controlled, practical fusion.

 

It's pretty cool they have a good model to predict the effects but this type of plasma instability is and was a known factor.

I feel like we're only 30 years away from stable, controlled, practical fusion.

And I can state, with absolute certainty, that stable and useful fusion will inevitably eventually be a reality.

 

https://scitechdaily.com/inside-the-tokamak-scientists-crack-the-code-to-stable-fusion-energy/

I feel like we're only 10 years away from stable, controlled, practical fusion.

Yeah, I thought that 50 years ago. I got over it.

 

https://scitechdaily.com/inside-the-tokamak-scientists-crack-the-code-to-stable-fusion-energy/

I feel like we're only 10 years away from stable, controlled, practical fusion.

That's interesting, I feel like we are only 10 years from being 10 years away from a stable practical fusion
If not, then we are just 10 years away from being 10 years away from being able to predict that we are 10 years away from a practical fusion power source
If not, then ...

Ok seriously, there's no way to predict this with certainty.

 

 

https://irfm.cea.fr/en/Phocea/Vie_des_labos/Ast/ast.php?t=fait_marquant&id_ast=982#:~:text=On February 12, scientists from,the plasma of 1337 seconds.

"On February 12, scientists from CEA-IRFM sustained a hydrogen plasma in the WEST Tokamak for 1337 seconds, approximately 22 minutes, with an injected and extracted energy of 2.6 GJ
...
Around 1040 seconds, one of the seven klystrons that power the heating antenna suddenly stopped, and the plasma reorganized into a new regime until the 1337th second, when the LH system stopped, ending the plasma. Many data are still being analysed to better understand the plasma's behaviour.

The following day, the second day dedicated to long-duration plasmas focused on deuterium plasmas. The best plasma of the day lasted 921 seconds, again demonstrating the robustness of the plasma scenario and the different control systems. Indeed, sustaining plasmas for such long durations requires real-time control systems that can react to events affecting the plasma, as well events impacting the components facing the plasma, including unexpected overheating.

 

Am I missing something, or was this a hydrogen plasma with no fusion reaction going on? I see no mention of fusion.

 

On February 12, scientists from CEA-IRFM sustained a hydrogen plasma in the WEST Tokamak for 1337 seconds...

Leet behavior!

 

Am I missing something, or was this a hydrogen plasma with no fusion reaction going on? I see no mention of fusion.

No, you're not missing anything. There is never going to be fusion in the WEST testing Tokamak and this wasn't trying for fusion.
They are perfecting the magnetic confinement systems and technology.

They lost a RF heating source for the plasma but the control system compensated and maintained confinement.

Mastering this inherently unstable plasma over long durations is a true technological challenge and an essential prerequisite for controlling a self-sustained plasma driven by fusion reactions, as will be the case in ITER, and ultimately for producing fusion energy on an industrial scale.

"sustaining plasmas for such long durations requires real-time control systems that can react to events affecting the plasma, as well events impacting the components facing the plasma, including unexpected overheating"

 

The machines we have don't operate anywhere near the WEST power levels but plasma instabilities can easily melt parts in vacuum chambers.

 

No, you're not missing anything. There is never going to be fusion in the WEST testing Tokamak and this wasn't trying for fusion.
They are perfecting the magnetic confinement systems and technology.

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They lost a RF heating source for the plasma but the control system compensated and maintained confinement.


"sustaining plasmas for such long durations requires real-time control systems that can react to events affecting the plasma, as well events impacting the components facing the plasma, including unexpected overheating"

WEST is one big, expensive learning jig ... and it's worth every penny that's been spent on it, IMHO. Many good things have come, and hopefully will keep coming out of it.

 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ready-to-use-nuclear-fusion-for-power-by-2050

Energy
China May Be Ready to Use Nuclear Fusion for Power by 2050

Better, only 25 years away.

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/12-...edroom-fbi-shows-up-at-his-home-8000191/amp/1

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/12-...edroom-fbi-shows-up-at-his-home-8000191/amp/1

Yeah but from what I hear now they are building them in the womb, fully functional, and they have to use fetus FBI agents to go in and check it out

 

Yeah but from what I hear now they are building them in the womb, fully functional, and they have to use fetus FBI agents to go in and check it out

Baby mamas are exploding everywhere.

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/12-...edroom-fbi-shows-up-at-his-home-8000191/amp/1

The FBI is investigating, I'm happy to see that actual crimes have been eliminated.

Kids have been building fusors for decades. Fusion is easy, getting out more than you put in is hard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor

A Farnsworth–Hirsch fusor is the most common type of fusor.[1] This design came from work by Philo T. Farnsworth in 1964 and Robert L. Hirsch in 1967.[2][3] A variant type of fusor had been proposed previously by William Elmore, James L. Tuck, and Ken Watson at the Los Alamos National Laboratory[4] though they never built the machine.

Fusors have been built by various institutions. These include academic institutions such as the University of Wisconsin–Madison,[5] the Massachusetts Institute of Technology[6] and government entities, such as the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran and the Turkish Atomic Energy Authority.[7][8] Fusors have also been developed commercially, as sources for neutrons by DaimlerChrysler Aerospace[9] and as a method for generating medical isotopes.[10][11][12] Fusors have also become very popular for hobbyists and amateurs. A growing number of amateurs have performed nuclear fusion using simple fusor machines.[13][14][15][16][17][18] However, fusors are not considered a viable concept for large-scale energy production by scientists.

https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/British-boy-builds-fusion-reactor
British boy builds fusion reactor

A thirteen-year-old schoolboy has become the youngest "fusioneer" - a person to build a fusion reactor.