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Maybe, but I doubt the Chinese EAST people are directly.
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One step closer to fusion...
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Hi,
Well, it's just like everything else like die transistor size and 'savings' prices online, the numbers don't mean anything like they used to mean which used to be something concrete.
This is the also the case with 'Fusion' where they don't use the unit of the 'year' anymore, they use a stand-in for it that sounds like a date so people like the idea better.
So the year 2028 is really a sequence:
2028, 2038, 2048, 2058, etc., etc., etc,...
Who knows, maybe they meant to say "3028"
If Billy gets this up and running by the end of 2028 I'll make a donation.
Yet another pie in the sky article from Interesting Engineering. Don't take anything they say at face value. I don't know that they are quite as unreliable as The Weekly World News, but they can't be too far behind.
I think not. Unless you're talking about the money spent.
https://www.lppfusion.com/whos-really-ahead-in-the-race-to-fusion-energy-background-for-journalists/
TL;DR. But, I assume you are saying that 150°MC plasma is not a significant accomplishment (regardless of cost)?
Again, I don't know -- I don't follow this tech, generally. Mostly I think it's hogwash, mainly due to the pressures, densities, and temperatures that need to be sustained indefinitely to produce usable fusion.
The way I understand it so far is that the huge number of reactions are creating chaos inside a chamber and everything is just dying to get out of it
It's a huge challenge so it requires a lot of engineering.
It works in the Sun so we believe it can work in an artificial one
Two oscillators get close to each other, a certain force takes over, they join naturally like two magnets that get close. They combine in a nonlinear way and then require less energy to oscillate so the extra energy gets emitted as radiation.
It's a huge challenge so it requires a lot of engineering.
It works in the Sun so we believe it can work in an artificial one
Two oscillators get close to each other, a certain force takes over, they join naturally like two magnets that get close. They combine in a nonlinear way and then require less energy to oscillate so the extra energy gets emitted as radiation.
A Tokamak is based on a completely different religion.
Hi,
My original statements were:
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The way I understand it so far is that the huge number of reactions are creating chaos inside a chamber and everything is just dying to get out of it
It's a huge challenge so it requires a lot of engineering.
It works in the Sun so we believe it can work in an artificial one
Two oscillators get close to each other, a certain force takes over, they join naturally like two magnets that get close. They combine in a nonlinear way and then require less energy to oscillate so the extra energy gets emitted as radiation.
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I don't see how there can be any different 'religion' as they both need high temperatures and they both fuse particles.
The way they confine the stuff could be different, but then I never said anything about that, nor the duration of the high temperature.
So all I said was:
"Fusion requires high temperatures", and
"Particles fuse".
I'm not an expert in this field, so did I miss something?
In both cases they produce energy by fusing two atoms with the generic name "hydrogen".
Beyond that, they are entirely different.
The LPP team is working on hydrogen-boron fusion because, unlike deuterium-tritium, no neutrons are produced.
Excerpted from the link I gave above, referring to companies claiming they're beginning construction of fusion plants:
"In our view, none of these claims are at all credible. The problem is not the near-term goal of getting electricity by 2031. Lots of fusion companies, including ours, are aiming for similar goals. The problem is that none of these four companies have completed the scientific research needed to design a fusion generator. So, none of them can start construction of something they have not and can’t design right now.
How do we know they have not completed scientific research? The universally-acknowledged goal of the research phase of fusion energy is to achieve net energy in the laboratory—more energy out of a device than is put into it. That shows that electricity production is possible in a commercial generator designed on the basis of the net energy lab experiments. None of the four companies has reached net energy, none are close to reaching it and, in fact, none are anywhere near as close as LPPFusion is."
Excerpted from the link I gave above, referring to companies claiming they're beginning construction of fusion plants:
"In our view, none of these claims are at all credible. The problem is not the near-term goal of getting electricity by 2031. Lots of fusion companies, including ours, are aiming for similar goals. The problem is that none of these four companies have completed the scientific research needed to design a fusion generator. So, none of them can start construction of something they have not and can’t design right now.
How do we know they have not completed scientific research? The universally-acknowledged goal of the research phase of fusion energy is to achieve net energy in the laboratory—more energy out of a device than is put into it. That shows that electricity production is possible in a commercial generator designed on the basis of the net energy lab experiments. None of the four companies has reached net energy, none are close to reaching it and, in fact, none are anywhere near as close as LPPFusion is."
Hi,
Oh so you are speaking more generally.
BTW, where was that thread that you said you realized something sort of profound about fields (i think it was fields).
I wanted to compare to something I was thinking about lately.
Was it related to this?
Hi,
Well, that might be interesting too, but I am pretty sure you actual stated that you finally realized something about either fields or that everything could be fields or something like that. You also posted something about what I think was a start of a TOE if I remember right.
I wanted to re-read those.
My theory is complete but not welcome here. PM me and I'll share, if you wish.
The sun has the power density of a compost pile. Gravity is one hell of a cheat. For us we need short times and extremely high temperatures with more efficient fusion fuels.
https://euro-fusion.org/fusion/fusion-on-the-sun/
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The broken record of nuclear fusion ...
