@nsaspook

Don't obfuscate the theories with facts from the Clinton Administration.

 

Excuse me, I thought we were talking about conspiracy theories.

 

@nsaspook

Don't obfuscate the theories with facts from the Clinton Administration.

Hey Joe how many ways could JFK taken to and from location. Was it predictable or did Oswald have knowledge of his route? thats what puzzel's me, the shot doesn't.

If you have multiple routes to choose from now you need spotter and allow travel to location, what are the chances or you need multiple shooters.

My fuzzy logic is back at it today. I have no idea about any of this really, just a hunch.

kv

 

Back then there was less pre visit work then these days.

I don't know where JFK was heading but I'm sure the route was publicized to maximize the PR.

Going down elm Street like that leads to I35E and I30 these days.

 

... I'm sure the route was publicized to maximize the PR.

Absolutely. The streets were lined with people. Clearly no secret where they were going.

 

Absolutely. The streets were lined with people. Clearly no secret where they were going.

He could pick the shot then, just like the active shooter in Vegas, difference is One Gun and One Bullet. The Vegas guy didn't even need to aim, he could have closed his eye's to rain bullets on the crowd. With enough practice foreknowledge and experience with that Rifle, doable at those distances. I remember shooting my Grandfathers Savage 30.06 open sites if the target is moving away rather than across much more difficult, so the last shot was almost in line with the window it would be almost a perfect shot at the vantage point.

 

That day changed the methods and practices of the secret service. The RFKs murder applied changes to candidates.

Thus, in 1972, I met the secret service who was doing advance work on a visit to a talk show I engineered. I told them I would be real pissed if the knock the station off air .... Yeah right, I was 19 and they were armed. Lol

 

Adjusting for elevation is a bitch when you are shooting down on a target. It take some work to that that right. Then do it in a moving target.

it really isn't that hard

 

it really isn't that hard

Nope, it's not harder than riding a bicycle as our brains evolved as hunters. We can predict constant motion 3D future positions easily and make the necessary corrections with the weapon in hand by instinct with practice.

 

Shooting clay pigeons is good practice before pheasant hunting.

 

Adjusting for elevation is a bitch when you are shooting down on a target. It take some work to that that right. Then do it in a moving target.

You have a point, yabut.

From the previous post it's the 3rd shot that killed the president, the shot is almost straight on from the window he has time as the target moves away to pin point and the flatter from a distance approximately 77 yards is nothing and you might with the correct instruction put a target in a car at that distance and that angle would increase your success dramatically.

 

You have a point, yabut.

From the previous post it's the 3rd shot that killed the president, the shot is almost straight on from the window he has time as the target moves away to pin point and the flatter from a distance approximately 77 yards is nothing and you might with the correct instruction put a target in a car at that distance and that angle would increase your success dramatically.

Crap, I didn't know he had a scope on that gun? Sheesh, easy pezy Japaneezie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination_rifle

kv

Edit: One study said with open sites Oswald could fire the shots much faster.

Vincent Bugliosi put forward the hypothesis that Oswald aimed the Carcano with the open sights, which reduced the time necessary to take the three shots postulated by the Warren Commission. He notes that, with the downward slope on Dealey Plaza, President Kennedy's head would have appeared to Oswald to be a stationary target as the vehicle moved down and away at a slow speed. This suggestion also therefore makes any claim that the scope was defective to be meaningless with respect to Oswald's shooting ability.

 

Crap, I didn't know he had a scope on that gun? Sheesh, easy pezy Japaneezie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination_rifle

kv

Edit: One study said with open sites Oswald could fire the shots much faster.

 

My Brother was Army Ranger, Sniper. He told me the Army wasn't for me, even if I tried they would have outed me in bootcamp for my Asthma. They put him on the DMZ in Korea with the Task to shoot as many as fast as he could before being over ran.

I wanted to go Military because I was actually a better shot, so when I see some of this which most I had no idea like @wayneh I knew that last shot is not impossible but apparently proved as the Article states almost a non moving target.

kv

 

@nsaspook

Don't obfuscate the theories with facts from the Clinton Administration.

Clinton Administration?

Doesn't that mean yet more time travel, since the legislation was enacted more than a week before the election, let alone when Clinton was actually President?

 

Here's a CBS report to add to the details.....

 

Here's a CBS report to add to the details.....

Trust The Black Dude(s).
Excellent report. It looks like CBS news and Dan Rather must now be part of the great conspiracy to cover up the true killer(s).

 

Clinton Administration?

Doesn't that mean yet more time travel, since the legislation was enacted more than a week before the election, let alone when Clinton was actually President?

I stand corrected. The GHWB administration.

 

My great-uncle was a close associate of LBJ who actually ended up federal prison for some schemes that both he and Johnson had put together (which could have easily landed LBJ in the same place had the Kennedy's not been "neutralized").

My grandmother, who worked as his secretary and also served as impromptu hostess at their "8F Crowd" meetings was privy to a lot of what was going on back then. On several occasions she discussed with me personally some of the things which she had heard coming directly from these men's mouths, and with unequivocal certainty those words were concerned with the planning and execution of what essentially amounted to a coup d'etat.

My great-grandmother was also once good friends with Lady Bird but was eventually forced to break ties due to what my great-grandfather simply referred to as "that whole Kennedy business". It really broke Mamo's heart because she truly did love "Birdie", she just didn't have much of a choice; the assassination had created a huge rift within the family (and in retrospect the ripples of that effect continue to this day - we were once very tight-knit, but nowadays hardly any of us keep in touch).

And it's not as if the truth isn't already out there. The problem is that people either don't want to believe it or simply don't care (it's ancient and thus irrelevant). It's an uncomfortable part of our history which few of us are proud to share with the rest of the world so instead we just embrace the illusion that JFK was taken down by some commie zealot (who also "just happened" to work for both the Agency and the Bureau).

 

Sure the truth is already out there , along with nutty conspiracy theories that would make the X-files junk the script.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-reston-jfk-assassination-target-20161122-story.html

Being a Texan that remembers LBJ I wouldn't put anything past him but if there was to be a hit on JFK, IMO it damn sure would not have been in the state of Texas.