More JFK files released

GopherT

Joined Nov 23, 2012
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It is really too bad that the President has yielded to pressure from some agencies to hold back some of the documents. There will always be lingering suspicion regardless of what is released but holding back some documents is sure to trigger speculation that certain agencies are afraid of their part being exposed.

How are we supposed to justify our conspiracy theories if everything is released?
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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It is really too bad that the President has yielded to pressure from some agencies to hold back some of the documents. There will always be lingering suspicion regardless of what is released but holding back some documents is sure to trigger speculation that certain agencies are afraid of their part being exposed.
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kv

Edit: Ok.
 

Motanache

Joined Mar 2, 2015
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JFK had an incredibly beautiful wife.Jacqueline.
She was loved by her family friend Onassis.
Onassis had a lot of money, but he was old and ugly.Undersized.

Kennedy told his wife: "Beware of the Greeks even when they make gifts" - I do not know exactly something like that.
In fact, he should have feared.

Obviously people like Onassis have been complicit by many governments ......
Some still pay for manipulation to take us on the runway.

Nobody sees the reason that someone wanted to take his wife.


Warning
: It's just nonsense I did not write anything seriously!
 
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Glenn Holland

Joined Dec 26, 2014
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JFK had an incredibly beautiful wife.Jacqueline.
She was loved by her family friend Onassis.
Onassis had a lot of money, but he was old and ugly.Undersized.

Kennedy told his wife: "Beware of the Greeks even when they make gifts" - I do not know exactly something like that.
In fact, he should have feared.

Obviously people like Onassis have been complicit by many governments ......
They still pay for manipulation to take us on the runway.

Warning
: It's just nonsense I did not write anything seriously!
Actually, men that have tons of $$$ can get all the women (or men) they want and they don't have to resort to anything drastic like murder.

However, it's well known that rich men have more to fear from poor women who are "Out digging for gold". Reminds me of that Google executive who took his harem out on his yacht and she "Did him in" by putting something in his drink.
 

Motanache

Joined Mar 2, 2015
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The story with the hidden documents has a defect - seems to be doing well maybe too good.
I think it's a story ready to be served to the press.
 

Motanache

Joined Mar 2, 2015
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There is no secret. I know from one historians:
In services like MI 6 what an employee does not even know his boss. Neither the head of the institution. Because they asks him not to tell them.

Why would exist hidden documents? in this story.
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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A nut (Oswald) with a rifle killed JFK from this building. There is overwhelming proof of that. How we knew about this nut from the sources and methods used to track him and the people he meet is what's still secret.
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
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it's no coincidence that Lee Harvey Oswald was a sharp shooter
It's not that far from from the "perch" to where the three X's are on the street at the 6th floor museum. I was quite surprised on the distances. From the TV images it looked quite large but in person, well ..... The longest shot was about 233 feet, the shortest, about 122 feet

I imagine the trees are much bigger then they were in 1963.

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GopherT

Joined Nov 23, 2012
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It's not that far from from the "perch" to where the three X's are on the street at the 6th floor museum. I was quite surprised on the distances. From the TV images it looked quite large but in person, well ..... The longest shot was about 233 feet, the shortest, about 122 feet

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Adjusting for elevation is a bitch when you are shooting down on a target. It take some work to that that right. Then do it in a moving target.
 

JoeJester

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I'm sure a sharpshooter has the skills, with a bolt action rifle. Although I suspect the first shot did what the shooter wanted. Besides Oswald had a bead on his target for a long ways on Houston Street and through the turn onto Elm Street.

Shooting a 160 gr bullet less than 100 yards, there's not much rise, it's pretty much, what you see is what you get. Now, shooting a 22 at 100 yards, you need to aim 4 inches high when using a rifle sited in at 50 yards.

The vehicle was moving north on Houston and turned towards the west on Elm.

My first trip down there I was surprised the area was so small compared to what I remember on the TV.
 
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nsaspook

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My first trip down there I was surprised the area was so small compared to what I remember on the TV.
It's a very small area. (I worked at the RS in downtown Dallas for a while and rode the bus near this location almost every day as a teen)

Believe the The black dude, he's definitely not part of a CIA conspiracy in 1963.:rolleyes:
 
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killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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I'm sure a sharpshooter has the skills, with a bolt action rifle. Although I suspect the first shot did what the shooter wanted. Besides Oswald had a bead on his target for a long ways on Houston Street and through the turn onto Elm Street.

Shooting a 160 gr bullet less than 100 yards, there's not much rise, it's pretty much, what you see is what you get. Now, shooting a 22 at 100 yards, you need to aim 4 inches high when using a rifle sited in at 50 yards.

The vehicle was moving north on Houston and turned towards the west on Elm.

My first trip down there I was surprised the area was so small compared to what I remember on the TV.
Agreed, @JoeJester

My first deer a two point, bolt action Browning 30.06 with a scope, the buck came down from higher ground my dad by my side said shoot it, but I couldn't because all I could see was brown blurr in the scope. So, I let it pass by us and it disappeared below and came up on the ridge the drop was about 15 feet across from us, in the scope my first shot I held about 1 foot above and led him by 2 feet as he was on a dead run, when I squoze the first round the buck buckled like it hit a brick wall. The shot was 150 yards or more, Oswald with a bead could have taken the shot easily with a little practice and with the aid of someone with training to assist in the shot meaning an actual sniper or spotter. My dad called the shot, kv lead him 2 feet and shoot above him about a foot.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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It is really too bad that the President has yielded to pressure from some agencies to hold back some of the documents. There will always be lingering suspicion regardless of what is released but holding back some documents is sure to trigger speculation that certain agencies are afraid of their part being exposed.
Or did he hold them back as leverage? In his own investigation?
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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Or did he hold them back as leverage? In his own investigation?
I'm not to sure about that, the release in and of itself was designed to fill the news with more controversy and provide opportunity for legislators and legislation to pass under the publics nose without inspection. Hard enough to just go to work and deal with family issues while these critters play a game of 3 card monty.

Hide your wallet if you can.

kv

Edit: Sorry @JoeJester I like your description of people in Gov today.
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I'm not to sure about that, the release in and of itself was designed to fill the news with more controversy and provide opportunity for legislators and legislation to pass under the publics nose without inspection. Hard enough to just go to work and deal with family issues while these critters play a game of 3 card monty.

Hide your wallet if you can.

kv
That's a (time travel) conspiracy theory for another thread.:D

The release date was set in 1992.
The Act requires that each assassination record be publicly disclosed in full and be made available in the collection no later than the date that is 25 years after the date of enactment of the Act (which was October 26, 2017), unless thePresident of the United States certifies that: (1) continued postponement is made necessary by an identifiable harm to the military defense, intelligence operations, law enforcement, or conduct of foreign relations; and (2) the identifiable harm is of such gravity that it outweighs the public interest in disclosure.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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It's not that far from from the "perch" to where the three X's are on the street at the 6th floor museum. I was quite surprised on the distances. From the TV images it looked quite large but in person, well ..... The longest shot was about 233 feet, the shortest, about 122 feet
Standing on the X in the street and looking up at the window was an 'aha' moment for me as well. At that moment I realized I'd been lied to.

Deja vu all over again. https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/...s-another-chapter.125618/page-66#post-1066529
 
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