The war on cops, another chapter

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wayneh

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You don't brainwash people into believing things that are the opposite of hard reality, you spin events into a narrative that strokes their biases and then reinforce that to a seemly plausible sequence of events for your purpose. I'm not biased to believe government and I'm not biased to believe every story from Copwatch. I try to use my BS detector on every story. The JFK (or 9/11 in modern times) conspiracy type stories have been a national kook past-time for 50+ years and the serious mention of one adds about 50 points to the crackpot tally part of my BS detector.
I was a conspiracy believer for years until I visited Dealey plaza and saw how "small" it is. All that stuff about how impossible the shot would have been, I immediately realized was total crap. I think even I could have made that shot.

That alone doesn't mean anything but it made me far more skeptical of the theories. I was a non-believer for a decade or more.

More recently I've read of more and more "coincidences" and have generally lost confidence in our government to not carry out something like this. Just one coincidence I had never heard before until recently: Zapruder was a member of CIA-aligned social groups. There are so many more oddities, such as doctors disavowing that the autopsy photographs are authentic. And there are documents the government still won't release. Really? 53 years later?
 

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And there are documents the government still won't release. Really? 53 years later?
When the documents were sealed for 75 years, the thought that ran through my mind was, "That means the youngest participant must be 25 years old."
 

nsaspook

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Zapruder owned a dress factory so it's possible there is a CIA connection.:p

Dealey Plaza and most of downtown Dallas is a shooting gallery as was recently shown by the recent cop killings. I worked at the downtown Radioshack part-time while in high-school and usually caught the bus back home near the Plaza. The road splits and drops down under the old freeway where JFK was shot so it makes a perfect location to shoot a person in an open car.
 

JoeJester

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No, I think that would be the old FBI.
There are always two competing metrics ... today's FBI and yesteryear's FBI. One thinks the other is archaic and the other asks ... is your asshole jealous? The question is valid as that group hears all the shit coming out of their mouths.

People don't get better. The tools get better, but people remain as screwy as they were since the dawn of time. Depending on your beliefs, even the core one of good and evil, they will exist.
 

nsaspook

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I posted this in weird already but this version is more about the cops.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/02/health/parrot-mugshot-trnd/index.html
The deputies also went and brought Bird in and let the macaw hang out with its owner in the booking area.
"Our sheriff's office has very strong core values of doing the right thing. I also have very strong moral values of treating all people with compassion no matter what role I am taking," McKelvey said.
And that's how Buckner and his feathery friend ended up in this amazing mugshot. Because some officers decided to extend a little kindness.
 

nsaspook

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http://abc7ny.com/news/family-nypd-raids-wrong-home-posts-snapchat-of-them-in-cuffs/1670637/
BROWNSVILLE, Brooklyn (WABC) --
A family in Brooklyn is outraged after NYPD officers raided their home, put everyone in handcuffs and then posted a picture of them on social media with the caption "Merry Christmas Its NYPD."

The Brownsville residents were so upset that not only did they file a report, but they also called 911.

"The worst part was the Snapchats," Kimberly Santiago said. "That's what really got to me."

The photo appeared in the "New York story" feed on Snapchat, and it is now under investigation by Internal Affairs.
 

nsaspook

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I finally found a number for the Lone Gunman Club.
"A 2013 poll found that only 30% of Americans believe Oswald shot JFK, and that he acted alone."
In 2016, the CIA accidentally released documents describing their involvement in deceiving the Warren Commission.
I wonder what the percentage is now.

http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/10/finally-the-cia-admits/
60% of Americans believe in the story of Noah's Ark, word by word.

And then we have this.
 

JoeJester

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I have no disagreement with holding someone accountable. I'd also like to hold those who make false accusations accountable as well. That is why I try to wait for the investigation, by whoever is doing it, is complete. Of course the police police could be covering something up and if that were the case, the Chief of Police is accountable for running a shit department.

I'd let due process work.

The last Fort Worth video is suspicious. The skipping at facebook live does happen in weaker signal areas, so it's value is limited in an adjudicated case because of too many gaps. I hope the FWPD releases the officers body cam video soon. My son mentioned the jumpiness of the video and I had to tell him that was common in weak signal areas ... and some of my videos have done the same thing in weaken signal areas.
 

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wayneh

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...e-47-shot-holiday-weekend-20161226-story.html

Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said 90 percent of those killed during the weekend "had gang affiliations, criminal histories and were pre-identified by the department's strategic subject algorithm as being a potential suspect or victim of gun violence."

You know, maybe the solution in Chicago is not to crack down on the violent offenders, but to arm and enable them to an even higher level of violence. Then they'll wipe each other out and the cops can clean up whatever is left over. The MAD strategy at the city level.
 

#12

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You know, maybe the solution in Chicago is not to crack down on the violent offenders, but to arm and enable them
I think the Darwin approach is good for guns and drugs.
It seems the Chicago alternative is to try to jail the stupid out of people. I don't think that's working.:(
 

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wayneh

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I think the Darwin approach is good for guns and drugs.
It seems the Chicago alternative is to try to jail the stupid out of people. I don't think that's working.:(
Whatever they're doing isn't working, that's plain. But I think the insiders complain that not nearly enough of the perpetrators actually do time when they're caught. It's catch-and-release in Chicago. I honestly don't know why. I tend to think the people of Chicago don't really want to change their city all that badly, not badly enough to pay for it. Maybe there is no money in the budget for jail time? (The state is beyond broke.)
 

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It's catch-and-release in Chicago. I honestly don't know why.
LOL! It's about cash flow, not stopping crime. All you have to do to tap into a person's cash flow is catch and release. If you jail them, you have to provide room and board while they can't go to work and earn money to give you.:p
 
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