TL072 unity buffer circuit oscillating with floating input?

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joulupukki

Joined Sep 9, 2022
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I don't see any supply decoupling capacitors on your circuit diagram.
Are you referring to the power supply? It's there. 100nF right at Pin 8 of the op amp. You're right though, I didn't show it in the schematic. Didn't want to throw in more variables, but I can post a full schematic if that helps.
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R11 and C18 form a nice LPF keeping digital noise from the ESP32 connected to the circuit from adding its special noise to the opamp (and that part seems to be working wonderfully in normal operation).
 

sghioto

Joined Dec 31, 2017
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That would lower the input impedance below 1M, wouldn't it. Maybe to around 667K?
It would but curious if the noise is eliminated or reduced, start at 1M.
I have that circuit on my breadboard and see no noise even with RPD1 removed.
I see a path from IC6 pins 9 and 3 to pin 4 of IC5 along with the input jack. How long are those traces?
Do you have scope?
 
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joulupukki

Joined Sep 9, 2022
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It would but curious if the noise is eliminated or reduced, start at 1M.
I have that circuit on my breadboard and see no noise even with RPD1 removed.
I see a path from IC6 pins 9 and 3 to pin 4 of IC5 along with the input jack. How long are those traces?
Do you have scope?
I do have a scope. I'm guessing it has something to do with our layout. Not sure if this is too hard to see what's going on, but here's the circuit board:
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joulupukki

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This is the scope at the "Output Pull Down Resistor" (RPDO):

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I should have disconnected it from my amp to get this reading. I'm now hearing an 11K phantom ring in my ears. ;)
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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Now that you have found the signal on the output, can you find it on the input pins of the op-amp? If so , which pin? And is there some remnants of it on the supply?
 

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joulupukki

Joined Sep 9, 2022
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Now that you have found the signal on the output, can you find it on the input pins of the op-amp? If so , which pin? And is there some remnants of it on the supply?
I only see that on pins 1, 2, 6, and 7. Not seeing that noise on the opamp's input pins (3 and 5).

I'm wondering if, as soon as I connect something to the input pins (aka, my scope), that does the same thing that a guitar being plugged in does (makes it go away).
 

sghioto

Joined Dec 31, 2017
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I can't duplicate the problem your having on my breadboard regardless the value of RPD1.
I just think it's worth a try.
Other suggestion, can you power the board with a 9 volt battery?
Remove the GPIO lines from the board?
 

rpschultz

Joined Nov 23, 2022
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Here is the existing board build that we are currently testing.
  1. Mom- is not connected (airwire) to GND, we had to connect the momentary switch to one of the grounds in the JST connector. That's really the only problem we've had, except this current issue.

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