Interlocking between manual switches

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Hi,
Here's an alternative circuit. It works in simulation but needs breadboard testing (I don't have all the chips).
This also uses a CD4532 but uses an CD40175 to store the selected address. A CD4051 is used as a selector to select the desired PWM generator. The SPDT input buttons are daisy chained so only one button output can be present at any time.
I used low PWM frequencies for simulation purposes only. All switches are momentary SPDT.

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This circuit, posted in #79, is certainly the best I have seen, It allows all 7 selections and uses ONLY THREE CMOS IC devices. AND the functional logic is simple to follow because it is well drawn with a good logical flow! It could as easily utilize SPAT button switches as well, with only a slight reduction in error protection.
 

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sab201

Joined Nov 18, 2023
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Hi,
Here's an alternative circuit. It works in simulation but needs breadboard testing (I don't have all the chips).
Thanks for the circuit. So far I made and tested the one given by Crutschow using two ICs 4532 and 4514 both are easily available in my place. This circuit uses 3 ICs and CD 40175B is not readily available at my place.
 

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sab201

Joined Nov 18, 2023
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This circuit, posted in #79, is certainly the best I have seen, It allows all 7 selections and uses ONLY THREE CMOS IC devices. AND the functional logic is simple to follow because it is well drawn with a good logical flow! It could as easily utilize SPAT button switches as well, with only a slight reduction in error protection.
But the one using 4532 and 4514 shown in post #67 uses only 2 ICs. That is the reason I proceeded with that on perfboard. Though you said one of them is out of production that is available in my place easily may be in the future it could not be.
 

eetech00

Joined Jun 8, 2013
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But the one using 4532 and 4514 shown in post #67 uses only 2 ICs. That is the reason I proceeded with that on perfboard. Though you said one of them is out of production that is available in my place easily may be in the future it could not be.
Yes, but you still need to add an analog switch to select the PWM outputs. The circuit I posted already has that.
You can substitute D flip flops for the CD40175, but you'll need three FF's.
 

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sab201

Joined Nov 18, 2023
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Yes, but you still need to add an analog switch to select the PWM outputs. The circuit I posted already has that.
You can substitute D flip flops for the CD40175, but you'll need three FF's.
Yes right, all is accomplished with three ICs. I am using two 4016 ICs to switch between the PWMs so it makes a total of 4 ICs in the circuit I am making.
 

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sab201

Joined Nov 18, 2023
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Ok, I finally put this radio push button circuit the one using 4532 and 4514 shown in post #67 on load. When on no load, it was working and switching fine and giving an output of 4.9 Volts at Vcc 5.3 Volts. When I connected the outputs from the radio PB circuit to the 4016 ICs and then to the PWM circuits and to load, this happened.

There was a big voltage drop only 1.5 Volts DC was available at all the PWM generators and the max output PWM voltage was 1. 4 Volts. At this stage the push buttons were working correctly. Then I changed Vcc from 5 Volts to 9 Volts. The PWM output was 3.5 Volts. Finally I decided to try out 12 Volts. Now the PWM output is 5.3 Volts but then the radio push button circuit behaved erratically and it stopped working. It stays in the first push button output. When other buttons are pressed it switches as long as the button is pressed and then it goes back to the first PWM when released.

I am not sure what went wrong here. May be the radio push button circuit got overloaded.

Anyway I have the other radio PB circuit made using OR and NOR gates I will try this out then I will try out the one posted by eetech00.

Edit: All the IC s are powered from the same Vcc source voltage.
 

sghioto

Joined Dec 31, 2017
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Which schematic are you speaking of exactly as I don't see any 4016 chips in post #67
Can you post the schematic of the mosfet circuit that drives the load?
 

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sab201

Joined Nov 18, 2023
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You apparently have a incorrect connection that is seriously loading the circuit.
Show us exactly how the 4016 ICs were connected, including the supply connections.
Here is the circuit I made. I do not have any software for making circuit so I made it in simple way. Hope it is readable. Thanks.

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sab201

Joined Nov 18, 2023
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One more update I disconnected the load and 4016 IC s and tried the radio push button circuit. It does not work and stays in PWM 1 all the time even if other buttons are pressed. I suppose the ICs sustained damage.
:(
 

eetech00

Joined Jun 8, 2013
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One more update I disconnected the load and 4016 IC s and tried the radio push button circuit. It does not work and stays in PWM 1 all the time even if other buttons are pressed. I suppose the ICs sustained damage.
:(
Powering your PWM units with the outputs of your radio circuit is not a good idea.
You need to show us details of the PWM circuit and its connections to the PB selector circuit, so we don't have to guess.
 

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sab201

Joined Nov 18, 2023
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You need to show us details of the PWM circuit and its connections to the PB selector circuit, so we don't have to guess.
This is the NE555 timer square wave generator PWM circuit.
sketch-1721874061869.jpgI suppose I have shown the connections from the output of the radio PB Circuit in post #92 to the 4016 ICs and how it is connected to the load.

I suppose Electric Spidey is right. The load current drawn by the PWM circuit is through the radio push button circuit ICs so it possibly is not a good idea. I should use 4016 ICs to supply power to the loads.
 

eetech00

Joined Jun 8, 2013
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This is the NE555 timer square wave generator PWM circuit.
View attachment 327785I suppose I have shown the connections from the output of the radio PB Circuit in post #92 to the 4016 ICs and how it is connected to the load.

I suppose Electric Spidey is right. The load current drawn by the PWM circuit is through the radio push button circuit ICs so it possibly is not a good idea. I should use 4016 ICs to supply power to the loads.
post #67 shows a “MOSFET Module”.
What is that? Give us details on how it is connected to the 555?
 

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sab201

Joined Nov 18, 2023
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post #67 shows a “MOSFET Module”.
What is that? Give us details on how it is connected to the 555?
This is the circuit in post #67 without the 4016 ICs.
sketch-1721076358395.jpgThis is the MOSFET switching module.
AI0289.1.pngThe PWM signal is given to this module which switches the 12 Volts supply ON and OFF to the load at different frequencies of the PWM. I suppose the load of the PWM circuits is only this MOSFET module and it draws small current only to switch ON and OFF like a relay or contactor.
 
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