Worse vaccine I ever had was my recent tetanus booster...wow.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/01/us-covid-case-counts-omicron

In reporting data on Covid, health departments should now take the same approach as they do with influenza, Gandhi said. That means releasing hospitalization and death data but not numbers concerning case counts because, like with the flu, it’s not possible to eliminate the virus, therefore we should only focus on its severity, she said.

“Once you have accepted the virus is endemic, just like influenza, then you never track cases because we never screen like this for any other viruses, we track what is causing disease and getting people hospitalized,” Gandhi said.

Other countries are now implementing an approach that is not focused on case counts. For example, in Canada, which has also seen record numbers of Covid cases recently, Dr Robert Strang, Nova Scotia’s chief medical officer of health, said at a news conference Thursday that the government agency would no longer focus on daily case counts.

“We no longer need to identify and have public health manage every single case of the variant because for most people, that will result in relatively mild illness, so we need to focus our efforts and resources on our most vulnerable groups,” said Strang. “Omicron is all around us and we have to recognize that you could be exposed anywhere … It’s about managing and slowing down the spread but not eliminating it.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/up-to...-get-covid-in-next-3-weeks-tests-running-out/

Speaking to Army Radio, Segal said that “from a certain stage — 20,000 or 30,000 infections per day — we will become oblivious to the numbers because we don’t have enough tests. The test apparatus is already collapsing.”

“What will happen, like what is happening all over the world, is that the restrictions that somewhat worked [against other variants] will simply be ineffective against Omicron, and the stop will only come when almost everyone who could get infected gets infected,” he told Ynet, predicting that would take around three weeks before numbers start to drop.

 

Worst vaccination I had was the Bubonic Plague. Our company had clean-up duty that night in a building that had recently been vacated. Talk about a bunch of feverish, very unhappy and sick men. Some men reported to sick bay the next morning, and I don't recall seeing them after that.

 

Which vaccine? Here in the US the Johnson & Johnson single dose vax has been often pointed out as having some, but relatively few, problems. Each vax has been reported as either advantageous or not in certain situations and improved upon for the next release. At least it didn't leave me with a nasty scar at the injection site like the smallpox vax of the 50's did.

they used AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Moderna
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/approved-vaccines/how-they-work
https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/covid-19-vaccination/about-the-covid-19-vaccines

 

it is interesting how narrative is breaking down and truth eventually shows up through the cracks.
and if fraction of what we know now is true, this will deserve new Nuremberg trial for all of those involved.
that includes those who did financing, releasing, covering up, etc. regardless of their status and position.

 

it is interesting how narrative is breaking down and truth eventually shows up through the cracks.
and if fraction of what we know now is true, this will deserve new Nuremberg trial for all of those involved.
that includes those who did financing, releasing, covering up, etc. regardless of their status and position.

If I remember my history
the Nuremberg trial(s)
were for Nazi war crime, and involved the death penalty for those found guilty,

Can I check,
I assume your not implying that the people concerned are Nazi,
but I am less clear as to are you proposing the death penalty to those involved ?

 

you can and should check....

Accused in Nuremburg trials were not on trial for being Nazis... it is within their right to feel pride for their nation (regardless how distorted). they were on trial for their active role that led to immense suffering and countless deaths, not for how they identified as (although there was a correlation). i am not aware of case where Nazi was tried and convicted even though he only delivered news papers, painted autumn leaves or plucked daisies...

i did not propose death penalty or any specific punishment. i stated that involved deserve trial. those on trial may be acquitted or convicted. and not everyone tried in Nuremburg was convicted and not everyone convicted got the death sentence. in fact not everyone sentenced to death was executed (Goering killed himself).

 

Worst vaccination I had was the Bubonic Plague. Our company had clean-up duty that night in a building that had recently been vacated. Talk about a bunch of feverish, very unhappy and sick men. Some men reported to sick bay the next morning, and I don't recall seeing them after that.

I'm with you on that, Bubonic Plague was a kick-ass shot.

 

you can and should check....

Accused in Nuremburg trials were not on trial for being Nazis... it is within their right to feel pride for their nation (regardless how distorted). they were on trial for their active role that led to immense suffering and countless deaths, not for how they identified as (although there was a correlation). i am not aware of case where Nazi was tried and convicted even though he only delivered news papers, painted autumn leaves or plucked daisies...

i did not propose death penalty or any specific punishment. i stated that involved deserve trial. those on trial may be acquitted or convicted. and not everyone tried in Nuremburg was convicted and not everyone convicted got the death sentence.

Please re read,
I did not say the trials were for being Nazi , but for being war criminals that happened to be Nazi,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials

Your reference to Nuremburg trials then
which had the death penalty as its max punishment,
You said " this will deserve new Nuremberg trial for all of those involved "

I'd like to understand what you are saying then
as you original said that "all those involved" should be subject to a "Nuremburg Trial"
for which the maximum penalty was death by hanging

Just trying to clarify what you are actually saying,
Thank you

 

very well... in light of the scales of pandemic - millions of dead, worldwide collapse of economies and fact that those involved include governments (and militaries), make military tribunal reasonable setting. i cannot think of more public tribunal... of course today, that would be Den Haag...

as for maximum punishment? i don't know, i am not the judge or jury. what do you think is appropriate punishment if ones actions result 5 million dead and many more that suffer, some that will suffer for life? i think expecting guilty to say sorry on tv or having breathalyzer tied to their car starter is probably not the right punishment.

and if there was a foul play (hypothetically), which of the following should be deemed criminal and which you think is the most severe:

a) financing gain of function research
b) covering up gain of function research
c) not pursuing (or stopping) investigation into origin of virus
d) covering up origin of virus
e) falsifying records on cause of death
f) falsifying records on number of deaths
g) falsifying records on therapeutic safety
h) falsifying records on therapeutic efficacy
i) mandating use of therapeutic based on falsified records
j) firing people based on falsified records
k) providing or prioritizing treatment based on ethnicity
l) publishing/report/broadcast based on falsified records
m) testing positive (vaccinated or not) and lying about it
n) testing positive (vaccinated or not) and not distancing/isolating
o) not following own mandate

 

how about other things assuming all is fair:

a) rioting and burning property
b) attacking police officers, burning precinct
c) demanding forced tattooing of foreheads of those uncertain of therapeutics safety
d) hitting innocent person on the head with a bike lock (assault with weapon)
e) wearing costume and posing in Capitol


btw the last two are sentenced. both were involved in "free speech" protests.
the bike lock attacker only got 3 years probation for cracking someone's skull with a weapon.
the nonviolent clown and village idiot got sentenced to 4 years in prison.
others got nothing... even when arrested, they were immediately released.

some justice eh?

 

Another curious and suspicious event...
China PCR test orders soared before first confirmed COVID case - Nikkei Asia

 

To add:

"Over the course of nine months, the International Military Tribunal (IMT) indicted 24 high-ranking military, political, and industrial leaders of the Third Reich. It charged them with war crimes, crimes against peace, crimes against humanity, and conspiracy to commit these crimes"

Given that governments took it upon themselves to invoke emergency powers over the course of the pandemic therby granting various non elected officials extraordinary power to create arbitrary rules, much like during a statw of war, a military tribunal would seem most appropriate.

Was there a set conspiracy? I have no idea. But there is much evidence that data is being withheld and profits are being made off of coersion.

Personally I feel like the world is on a runaway train and there are no plans on stopping it.

 

To gain a bit of clarity, do a bit of research on the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Netherlands. Also look up the Geneva Conventions and while you are at it any International Treaties that might give cause for bringing a case to the International Court of Justice. Then you might have a bit of understanding as to what the Nuremberg Trials and the Tokyo War Trials were all about. Also look up the various war trials of Italian War Criminals. This thread is beginning to sound more like politics than a discussion about Covid.

 

Another curious and suspicious event...
China PCR test orders soared before first confirmed COVID case - Nikkei Asia

Sounds about right when the first arrival of CV was spotted in the wild before super-cluster events later. If this is true then it's another pike in the heart of the lab leak story IMO and give more credance to the Chinese actions being more of a cover-up from another SARS outbreak from the illegal wild animal trade like happened before.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ckdown-did-more-harm-than-good-says-scientist

And it was this failure to understand the wide variations in individual responses to Covid-19 that led to Britain’s flawed responses to the disease’s appearance, he argues – errors that included the imposition of a long-lasting, national lockdown. This is a strategy that Woolhouse – one of the country’s leading epidemiologists – describes as morally wrong and highly damaging in his forthcoming book, The Year the World Went Mad: A Scientific Memoir.

“We did serious harm to our children and young adults who were robbed of their education, jobs and normal existence, as well as suffering damage to their future prospects, while they were left to inherit a record-breaking mountain of public debt,” he argues. “All this to protect the NHS from a disease that is a far, far greater threat to the elderly, frail and infirm than to the young and healthy.

“We were mesmerised by the once-in-a-century scale of the emergency and succeeded only in making a crisis even worse. In short, we panicked. This was an epidemic crying out for a precision public health approach and it got the opposite.”

I think most got it wrong during the lockdown era in the pandemic.

 

Sounds about right when the first arrival of CV was spotted in the wild before super-cluster events later. If this is true then it's another pike in the heart of the lab leak story IMO and give more credance to the Chinese actions being more of a cover-up from another SARS outbreak from the illegal wild animal trade like happened before.

maybe... and maybe it was a research for military. after all source animal was never found and Chines military was involved.

whatever the case, China had put a lot of effort to cover it up .. again.

they continue to "accidentally" start pandemics, then cover it up, play innocence and not face consequences.
there is no reason this will ever stop until someone is held accountable - both in China and around the world.

for example there was Chinese researcher team working in Canada that was secretly sending virus samples to China.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-...ian-shipment-of-deadly-viruses-to-china-66254
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/mani...hs-before-rcmp-asked-to-investigate-1.5609582
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/...f-2-fired-scientists-could-point-to-espionage

and Chinese scientists and researches are everywhere, in every field and in just about any country.
clearly this is a global problem that needs global effort to put an end to it.

maybe it is time to take of the gloves and give the involved treatment they deserve. arrest them for espionage and prosecute them accordingly.

also need to put and end to all support, financing and collaboration with labs in China stops until things change.
countries that do not join the resistance should face consequences (sanctions or whatever).

we need someone serious to step up and put an end to this. this is not about letting them take whatever they want. this is not pirated Windows. this is serious, people around the world are dying and the cycle repeats every few years with new bug.

 

China had put a lot of effort to cover it up .. again.

I do not wish to turn this into a china bash thread. To understand the cultural nature of china you need to read a few of the historical texts written of the early interactions by the early European and American explorers into china. China has a long tradition of upheaval of rulers and various warlords controlling large areas within china. Not to mention Mongol and Japanese invasions and rule. Try reading some of Robert Fortune - Wikipedia of Scotland's accounts of exploring within china during the 1800's to get a pretty good take on the people of china.
Internet Archive Search: robert fortune

 

i don't mean to bash China as a land, people, or their history. not just failure to contain or at least report something but active coverup delayed reaction of the world to help and prepare for what was to come. this is malice and that is failure that is strictly on the leadership. and this is not an isolated pandemic that came from there. also very time playbook is exactly the same. they better fess up and get their act together. short of that they deserve international sanctions. there is no nice way to put it. they own this. if they don't want to share this planet, they need to be put in isolation. and for that to happen, we need someone with pair and determination, i don't care who.

 

And to think, I was banned from this thread for 9months for posting a link to a certain person (some text deleted by moderation so the post can remain).

Yes, correctly so.
After repeatedly posting about X after being told specifically not to post about X.