The living hell of pumping your own gas is ending soon.

https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavi...us-status-oregon-state-fire-marshal-says.html
Oregonians can no longer pump their own gas at stations where self-service was not allowed before the coronavirus pandemic as of Sunday, the state fire marshal’s office announced Thursday.

 

Only in Russia. Something to live for.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020...-wearing-bikini-under-see-through-gown-a70324

“The men in the ward had nothing against the medic’s outfit,” the Newstula.ru website reported, citing an unnamed person who shared the photo.

 

According to this expert (Knut Wittkowski), shutdowns were exactly the opposite of what was needed. Wouldn't shock me if the government failed and failed badly.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Cm0fJMFTuR9V/

So-called expert. He was a mathematician hired by the university. But he was never a professor. He’s a statistician. There are statististics, lies and damn lies. I’d take the word of several doctors over that of a rogue statistician.

 

He never claimed to be a professor. I'm not taking the word of ANYONE regarding this virus, but the data that is coming seems to agree with Dr. Wittkowski's claims. The jury is out but the shutdowns may well turn out to be counter productive. They were originally marketed as a way to keep ICUs from being flooded, now the aim seems to be to stop the spread entirely, which seems impossible at this point.

 

Perhaps you don’t have enough information to make a rational decision. Or the information you believe has been carefully chosen to make you believe lies.

60%-80% of posts regarding shutting down or opening up the country have been proven to have come from bot engines. That is, a preponderance of “facts” come from a propaganda machine. Like the Russians use. Be cautious of what you believe before you become the tool of our enemy.

 

Perhaps you don’t have enough information to make a rational decision.

Yeah, and you don't either. That's my point.

 

Perhaps you don’t have enough information to make a rational decision. Or the information you believe has been carefully chosen to make you believe lies.

60%-80% of posts regarding shutting down or opening up the country have been proven to have come from bot engines. That is, a preponderance of “facts” come from a propaganda machine. Like the Russians use. Be cautious of what you believe before you become the tool of our enemy.

Everyone, including Sweden has some version of a shutdown social distancing effort. It's good science that needs balance that IMO leans more toward reopen ASAP where R0 is less that one.
The 'Bots' only influence is to echo the reopen movement, they didn't create the need to reopen.

https://www.wthr.com/article/dr-fau...irreparable-damage-reopening-must-be-cautious

WASHINGTON (TEGNA) - The nation's leading infectious disease expert says that keeping the country closed for too long to fight the coronavirus may cause "irreparable damage." But, Dr. Anthony Fauci says, cities and states must balance that by not reducing social distancing measures too quickly.

"We can't stay locked down for such a considerable period of time that you might do irreparable damage and have unintended consequences including consequences for health," Fauci, a member of the White House coronavirus task force, told CNBC on Friday. "And it's for that reason why the guidelines are being put forth so that the states and the cities can start to reenter and reopen."

“Now is the time -- depending on where you are and what your situation is -- to begin seriously looking at reopening the economy, reopening the country to try to get back to some degree of normal," Fauci said.

 

“Now is the time -- depending on where you are and what your situation is -- to begin seriously looking at reopening the economy, reopening the country to try to get back to some degree of normal," Fauci said.

Says the guy who practically engineered the shutdown. He's just playing both sides. Also a key player in pushing Moderna biotech's vaccine, which stands to make billions from the whole fiasco. Nothing fishy there!

 

Sure he's just playing both sides because that's the only scientific approach to this 'novel' problem that has changed quickly in two months. Most everything else is paranoid conspiracy nonsense or trolls from the left and right points of view. I'm for reopening ASAP but I also think the shutdown was the absolutely right thing to do with the data and situation that was known then. My problem is with people today, trying to use what's known now to justify criticism of decisions then as, too early, too late or not at all. That's BS IMO.

 

Sure he's just playing both sides because that's the only scientific approach to this 'novel' problem that has changed quickly in two months. Most everything else is paranoid conspiracy nonsense or trolls from the left and right points of view.

I guess I'm just getting jaded in my old age. I still say it's a rather unlikely set of coincidences...

I'm for reopening ASAP but I also think the shutdown was the absolutely right thing to do with the data and situation that was known then. My problem is with people today, trying to use what's known now to justify criticism of decisions then as, too early, too late or not at all. That's BS IMO.

Damn hard to stop a train once it gets rolling. I agree though, the sooner we open up the better. As it stands the economy could pretty much collapse if we don't act quickly enough.

 

We’ll have to see. My ex’s family all became exposed to the virus. My former mother-in-law is positive. Six of her eight children were exposed. And my daughter, grandson, son-in-law and unborn granddaughter were exposed, too. That’s in addition to the six acquaintances and three deaths already.

 

We’ll have to see. My ex’s family all became exposed to the virus. My former mother-in-law is positive. Six of her eight children were exposed. And my daughter, grandson, son-in-law and unborn granddaughter were exposed, too. That’s in addition to the six acquaintances and three deaths already.

Biology and physics dictate what will happen, “Mother Nature always bats last, and she always bats 1.000,”. It's not stopping until there is immunity from natural or man-made Biology and physics. Protect the old, frail and immune compromised at all costs but it's counter-productive to keep tight restriction on the general population because they are needed to support those at risk.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pandemic-exposing-limits-science-050003058.html

The 2008 financial crisis led the public to discover the limits of economics. The Covid-19 pandemic risks having the same effect on scientists and medical doctors.

Since the start of the outbreak, citizens have struggled to get clear answers to some basic questions. Consider masks, for example: The World Health Organization said early on that there was no point in encouraging healthy people to use them, but now most doctors agree that widespread mask-wearing is a good idea. There was also confusion around lockdowns: In the U.K., scientists argued for weeks over the merits of closing businesses and keeping people at home — a quarrel that may have cost the country lives. And now that the outbreak is fading in Italy, there is growing debate between the country’s public health experts and doctors over whether the virus has lost strength or remains just as deadly.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pandemic-exposing-limits-science-050003058.html

Oh, you mean science is a human activity? Why is that a surprise? And the debate about masks includes companies that sell masks and advocates that think masks are signs of weakness and guns are cool? In this our internet age everyone has their agenda and can promote it at will. That’s not science’s fault.

 

Masks and guns are cool, when robbing a bank. How you think depends on many factors across this nation. You can't really compare New York with North Dakota.

I have a deep down emotional response to people wearing masks in public. It might be related to certain groups wearing them while murdering people for claiming civil rights when I was a kid in Texas during the 50's and 60's. It' might also be related to why my family has guns and knows how to use them.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...h-covid-19-had-protective-antibodies-in-study

Almost all doctors and nurses who got mild forms of Covid-19 produced antibodies that could prevent reinfection, according to a study conducted on hospital staff in northeastern France.

The study of 160 volunteers shows all but one developed antibodies within 15 days after the start of infection, Institut Pasteur and university hospitals in Strasbourg said in an early version of their findings released before peer review. Almost all of the staff tested had antibodies that were capable of neutralizing the virus within 41 days of developing symptoms.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.19.20101832v2

 

Talking to a good and long time friend. He had planned to retire next month around mid June. So his company calls a company meeting and announces voluntary layoffs until this CORONA thing settles down. So with current unemployment subsidies he gets over nine hundred a week. He thinks about it a few micro-seconds and concludes he will take a voluntary layoff. No need to retire just yet right? Today I read this:

"National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow said the Trump administration was weighing offering a "back to work" cash bonus to encourage unemployed Americans to return to their old posts or seek out new ones".

When you pay people more or the same not to work as work what did you expect would happen?

Meanwhile my son is back to working overtime. His time was cut at one point because they were running out of raw materials to make product, now they have a backlog to fill. Go figure huh?

Ron

 

now they have a backlog to fill. Go figure huh?

I call that "the rubber band effect" ... demand for products and services continues even when the economy is supposedly paralyzed by a crisis such as this one.... as soon as the economy reopens... then wham!, there goes all of the pending purchase orders and such.

 

I call that "the rubber band effect" ... demand for products and services continues even when the economy is supposedly paralyzed by a crisis such as this one.... as soon as the economy reopens... then wham!, there goes all of the pending purchase orders and such.

Exactly because nothing really changed. The commercials on TV tell me the guys making toilet paper have boosted up production. Yet, while there was a buying frenzy actual use hasn't changed. So let's say a house uses 1 roll per day. If they managed to stockpile 100 rolls it just means even when availability is there they won't need any for at least 3 months.

Entirely away from that subject I have noticed while my local super market is well stocked the one item with scarce shelves is canned soups. Normally there is a massive section with just Campbell's Soup and all I saw was Chicken Noodle, could not find much else. They simply are not getting any in.

Ron

 

Entirely away from that subject I have noticed while my local super market is well stocked the one item with scarce shelves is canned soups. Normally there is a massive section with just Campbell's Soup and all I saw was Chicken Noodle, could not find much else. They simply are not getting any in.

That's not entirely away from what we're discussing. Down here the same soup scarcity has happened, both in its canned and dried pasta forms. I blame those with a survivalist attitude for this phenomena. Most likely some people stocked their pantries with non-perishable goods so as to feel safer during this pandemic.