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killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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The governor of Arizona knows the score.

There will be at least 2 years of heavy industrial work building out the fab and tons of engineering/technical/facilities staff that can't be automated away. What's lost are the lowest playing operator jobs shuffling wafers from workstation to workstation.
Put Utah on the list of growing manufacture of electronics and software design. I think it’s all about the newest automation processes, put X into building Y comes out ready to ship. I remember when GE designed a facility that made dishwashers, parts come in dishwashers come out, most of the process is human less. Load on a truck gone. Shipping weights also decreases as machine designs favored cost of shipping over long term use. We entered into the throw away vs repair, designed obsolescence. Put me out of business when Clinton deregulated Banks opening a new era of Lone term credit for Big Box stores to sell cheap hard goods to customers willing to put the <ars> on the line for it and go bankrupt if they couldn’t meet the Loan payment. Such as they did during the housing bust.

Oh, well or c’est la vie. I’m still the better for it, letting that business go was difficult but, one of the best decisions I’ve ever had to make, I lost around 40k in the process but grew my knowledge far above what I would have staying stubborn and poor.

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.kgw.com/article/money/b...iday/283-8200d288-ff74-46c5-a05e-bd233028f7bd
PORTLAND, Ore. — All Oregon stores can open to shoppers again Friday, as long as they aren't in a mall and they follow state COVID-19 health guidelines.

In a news release Wednesday, Oregon officials confirmed that “all retailers statewide, including those that were mandated to close previously, will be able to operate as long as they can implement the new safety measures required, effective May 15.”
 
The governor of Arizona knows the score.

There will be at least 2 years of heavy industrial work building out the fab and tons of engineering/technical/facilities staff that can't be automated away. What's lost are the lowest playing operator jobs shuffling wafers from workstation to workstation.
Good point. I lived in New Mexico when Intel was building a fab outside Albuquerque. At one point, they brought in electricians from all over the Southwest. Bused them in daily from remote accommodations. Just blitzed it for a few weeks. The logistics must be incredible.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Worth watching. And it steers clear of politics.

Decoding COVID-19
https://www.pbs.org/video/decoding-covid-19-hrfhb2/
The coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 has upended life as we know it in a matter of months. But at the same time, an unprecedented global effort to understand and contain the virus—and find a treatment for the disease it causes—is underway. Join doctors on the front lines of the fight against COVID-19 as they strategize to stop the spread, and meet the researchers racing to develop treatments and vaccines.
 

MrAl

Joined Jun 17, 2014
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Did anybody else see the news about that guy that did an experiment in a restaurant with a salad bar?
The experiment was to see how fast a virus could spread.
What he did was painted his palm with a paint that was only visible under either uv light or ir light.
He started by using the tongs to pick up some lettuce or something.
After about a half hour or so, he turned on the light. The place lit up like a Chinese New Year.
There was paint all over people including their face, clothes, hair, one gal had her finger in her mouth and the finger had paint on it. It was truly astonishing how that paint got all over the place in so little time.
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
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I have no idea why you think that.
Really?? The estimated cost is 10 billion. The timeline is 3 1/2 years. Companies left the US in droves when the cost of a fab was 2 billion, and they lost access to the capital markets. What incentives or government ownership, US or Taiwan, will be part of the deal?
 

Berzerker

Joined Jul 29, 2018
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You go to the store, you buy something and you put your card in a card reader and punch in your code that everybody and their brother has touched everyday.
The money in your pocket you just got from the bank? How many have touched it before you? We already know it has cocaine and fecal matter on it.
Brzrkr
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Really?? The estimated cost is 10 billion. The timeline is 3 1/2 years. Companies left the US in droves when the cost of a fab was 2 billion, and they lost access to the capital markets. What incentives or government ownership, US or Taiwan, will be part of the deal?
Yes, really.:rolleyes: The simple fact this is even on the table of possibilities for 12 billion dollar long term investment from TSMC proves the point that, maybe times have changed. I'm sure there will be a boatload of incentives but the bottom-line is that manufacturing in the USA is a viable option.

https://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRListingNewsAction.do?action=detail&&newsid=THGOANPGTH
Hsinchu, Taiwan, R.O.C., May 15, 2020 – TSMC (TWSE: 2330, NYSE: TSM) today announced its intention to build and operate an advanced semiconductor fab in the United States with the mutual understanding and commitment to support from the U.S. federal government and the State of Arizona.

This facility, which will be built in Arizona, will utilize TSMC’s 5-nanometer technology for semiconductor wafer fabrication, have a 20,000 semiconductor wafer per month capacity, create over 1,600 high-tech professional jobs directly, and thousands of indirect jobs in the semiconductor ecosystem. Construction is planned to start in 2021 with production targeted to begin in 2024. TSMC’s total spending on this project, including capital expenditure, will be approximately US$12 billion from 2021 to 2029. This U.S. facility not only enables us to better support our customers and partners, it also gives us more opportunities to attract global talents. This project is of critical, strategic importance to a vibrant and competitive U.S. semiconductor ecosystem that enables leading U.S. companies to fabricate their cutting-edge semiconductor products within the United States and benefit from the proximity of a world-class semiconductor foundry and ecosystem.
In the United States, TSMC currently operates a fab in Camas, Washington and design centers in both Austin, Texas and San Jose, California. The Arizona facility would be TSMC’s second manufacturing site in the United States.
 
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Cures COVID-19 but causes ... ?
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/healt...rs-coronavirus-vaccine-poised-for-human-tests
Drugmakers from around the world have jumped into the vaccine race, with more than 100 candidates in development in the U.S., Europe, China and other regions. BAT rival Philip Morris International Inc. is also testing an immunization based on a virus-like particle grown in a close relative of the tobacco plant.

BAT subsidiary Kentucky BioProcessing uses tobacco plants in making the experimental vaccine, which is derived from the genetic sequence of Sars-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid. According to BAT, the method generates the vaccine faster than conventional approaches, reducing the time required from several months to about six weeks.
 

DickCappels

Joined Aug 21, 2008
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Meanwhile, from somewhere in Thailand (been waiting for this to happen):

If you have visited a supermarket or even your local 7-Eleven in recent weeks, you will no doubt have had your temperature taken and been given hand sanitizer as part of the measures introduced to help prevent the spread of COVID-19.

However, what should have been a now routine screening for COVID-19 went horribly wrong for one unlucky woman in Thailand.

A video shared to Facebook shows the moment a dozy 7-Eleven staffer, rather than taking the woman’s temperature, accidentally sprays alcohol hand sanitiser in the eye of an unsuspecting customer as she tries to enter the store.

Immediately realising her mistake, the staffer consoles the woman, who appears to be in a considerable amount of pain.

The video was shared to Facebook on Friday afternoon and had already been shared more than 15,000 times in just a few hours.

The condition of the woman is not known.

 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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R0 under 1 without a full lockdown was the goal, looks like they made it with a mortality rate better than most of the UK. Not good, but not horrible.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

US state up-to-date values for R.
https://rt.live/

United States Coronavirus Cases
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

https://www.thelocal.se/20200310/timeline-how-the-coronavirus-has-developed-in-sweden
Sweden's reproduction number is just under 1, said state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell. That's the number that shows the virus' ability to spread, and the short explanation of what it means is that if the number is higher than 1, the virus is spreading exponentially, so a number under 1 is good. Many of the new people testing positive are due to an increase in testing, especially of healthcare workers, said Tegnell.
 
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