"recent"???

This is how ToS and such have been written since, oh, pretty much the beginning of time -- and they didn't invent the tactic. Ever see a TV ad that had a panel of tiny print that popped up for a second or two right at the end -- those were the legal disclaimers that they had to provide to anyone seeing the ad. Given that this was in the days long before VCRs, even the people that wanted to read it couldn't. But you could send a letter to the advertiser and they would send you a printed copy of the disclaimer (and they really would very diligently do exactly that for anyone that requested it). Or a radio ad where some guys comes on at the end and speaks so quickly that there you struggle to even recognize one word in ten? Same thing. The same with laws and regulations -- it didn't take long at all for lawmakers to realize that they could bury all kinds of stuff in unrelated laws and regulations. Usually they are things that qualify as "pork" and not things that directly restrict people because those are fairly easy to challenge ("Members of the Jury, my client is charged with mowing his lawn on a Tuesday in violation of the Interstate Highway Sugar Beet Tariff Act. Need you really know more in order to reach a just verdict?").

of course this is what all of the gracious govts and power owners say to the public in theory,but many times in practice,it's not about breeding pork but is about playing for a fool as moke.
and not to forget that the Moses's commandments was not more than 10 and made that much trouble. :/

 

Hence the reason I’m not interested in Switzerland or Italy anymore. So, I’m spending my time on Guitar, holding off on learning Italian.

kv
Edit: Beside that I’m saving a lot of cash, any travel will be in the US.

Non che lo facciano più

 

Non che lo facciano più

Is that Latin I could find a clear phrase or word usage for it?

kv

 

Is that Latin I could find a clear phrase or word usage for it?

kv

No it is contemporary Italian. it means "Not that they do it anymore"

 

The new reality.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCafjJboFJ6mi-HO9NoufQYg
Max.

IMO paranoid BS. The guy seems to know little about how humans evaluate continuous risk and the ability of human mind to accept the unthinkable as a group (He takes the bullet, not me when we take that hill).

Come to Oregon if you want to ski.
https://katu.com/news/coronavirus/timberline-lodge-reopening-ski-area-friday
Timberline Ski Lodge is reopening on Friday, May 15

 

Stock Up on antacid pills?
https://www.kptv.com/general/study-...cle_ad9a408f-c604-5c27-bc11-03e1638b4073.html

Patients who took a common heartburn medicine while hospitalized for COVID-19 were more than twice as likely to survive the infection, according to a paper posted Friday on a pre-publication website. But it's unclear whether the patients fared better because of the famotidine or if it was a coincidence.

"Based on what we've learned in this study, it's encouraging," said Dr. Joseph Conigliaro, a coauthor of the paper and a physician at Northwell Health. "This association is actually really compelling."

The drug, famotidine, has been on the market for nearly 40 years and is an active ingredient in the popular over-the-counter heartburn treatment Pepcid.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.01.20086694v1

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020...navirus-but-dont-take-it-yet-doctors-say.html

Pepcid antacid might combat coronavirus, but don’t take it yet, doctors say

 

Manufacturing moving to the US from China(yes, TSMC is Taiwanese)? $10 billion dollars!
https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...tsmc-to-reportedly-build-a-factory-in-arizona

Apple partner TSMC to reportedly build 5nm chip factory in Arizona

 

It was the "sooner it happens the better" part that I'm not sure about. That assumes that an infection confers "some" immunity. What if it doesn't? Do you want to infect yourself repeatedly for no good reason? Is it even remotely possible that there is no good answer?

Yeah that is worse case scenario. But if it follows other virus templates it will peter out.

IT is entirely possible that the whole world could be killed off but it's not as likely as people developing antibodies.

 

Manufacturing moving to the US from China(yes, TSMC is Taiwanese)? $10 billion dollars!
https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...tsmc-to-reportedly-build-a-factory-in-arizona

Apple partner TSMC to reportedly build 5nm chip factory in Arizona

As you note, TSMC is Taiwanese and, unlike virtually all products from China (including silicon), TSMC is a top-tier silicon fab.

But be careful about calling TSMC "Chinese". I made the mistake of referring to my Taiwanese wife as "Chinese" once -- it was a mistake never repeated (and she lived and worked in China for several years and has lots of friends there).

The article tries to imply that this is somehow Apple related. Maybe, but Apple is simply one of TSMCs customers (okay, their biggest customer accounting for about 20% of their business). It may be that the U.S. plant will serve only Apple, or that it might not serve Apple at all, or be somewhere in between. That will be driven by who wants to pay for 5 nm technology for their products (and I suspect Apple will be on that list).

When I was designing chips we used a lot of different fabs but over time virtually all of our designs went to TSMC because of their quality in so many areas. Not just the chips themselves, but their design rules and device characterizations were generally far beyond what we saw with other fabs.

 

Once was one time too many.

Yes, TSMC is a top-tier silicon fab as they make all sorts of nice products for chip OEMs.
https://www.microchip.com/mymicrochip/NotificationDetails.aspx?pcn=GBNG-24IYAL151&opennew=n

 

Manufacturing moving to the US from China(yes, TSMC is Taiwanese)? $10 billion dollars!
https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...tsmc-to-reportedly-build-a-factory-in-arizona

Apple partner TSMC to reportedly build 5nm chip factory in Arizona

I'm skeptical about the prospects for a commercial fab in the US by TSMC or anybody else for that matter. How about the Foxconn facility in Wisconsin -- hows that one going? OK it is not a semiconductor fab, but it still appears to be vaporware.

 

I'm skeptical about the prospects for a commercial fab in the US by TSMC or anybody else for that matter. How about the Foxconn facility in Wisconsin -- hows that one going? OK it is not a semiconductor fab, but it still appears to be vaporware.

I have no idea why you think that.

The prospects are actually very good as there is already massive semiconductor infrastructure in the area. Oregon is also a semiconductor manufacturing hub.
https://www.chipsetc.com/semiconductors-in-arizona.html
https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-...-to-spend-billions-on-new-oregon-factory.html

 

I'm skeptical about the prospects for a commercial fab in the US by TSMC or anybody else for that matter. How about the Foxconn facility in Wisconsin -- hows that one going? OK it is not a semiconductor fab, but it still appears to be vaporware.

Since TSMC already has a fab in the U.S., I'm guessing they have a pretty good idea of whether they can make a second one go.

And Intel seems to be making a go of it in the U.S. somehow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_manufacturing_sites

As do about four dozen other companies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_manufacturing_sites

 

Since TSMC already has a fab in the U.S., I'm guessing they have a pretty good idea of whether they can make a second one go.

And Intel seems to be making a go of it in the U.S. somehow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_manufacturing_sites

As do about four dozen other companies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_manufacturing_sites

That list also had more than a few that have been decommissioned, demolished, or repurposed. It is still a large company (market cap 250 B), but growth has lagged for some time.

 

Being decommissioned, demolished, or repurposed is the normal life-cycle of obsolete fabs.

I think TSMC will do just fine if they decide to build in AZ.

De Beers just built a semiconductor process based diamond factory in the area to complement the semi fabs in my area. We have a lot to offer beyond cheap slave labor.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/E...d671034!8m2!3d45.5190956!4d-122.4254716?hl=en

https://siliconmaps.com/silicon-forest-map/

 

Perhaps TSMC building a fab in the US is good tariff insurance. Also, a hedge for geopolitical risk from their neighbor to the West. I hope the governor of Arizona does not get too excited. My impression is a new fab is very highly automated and does not create a lot of jobs like they did 20 years ago.

 

Perhaps TSMC building a fab in the US is good tariff insurance. Also, a hedge for geopolitical risk from their neighbor to the West. I hope the governor of Arizona does not get too excited. My impression is a new fab is very highly automated and does not create a lot of jobs like they did 20 years ago.

The governor of Arizona knows the score.

There will be at least 2 years of heavy industrial work building out the fab and tons of engineering/technical/facilities staff that can't be automated away. What's lost are the lowest playing operator jobs shuffling wafers from workstation to workstation.

 

My local Oregon coast casino is reopening. Things are looking a lot better now. Beach parties with the family.
https://www.chinookwindscasino.com/openingfaq/

 

People are upset Tesla can open but they can't.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2...-19-rules-to-reopen-while-others-follow-them/

Resentment Builds When COVID-19 Reopening Rules Apply To Some Businesses, But Not Others

 

And finally we start to see the Supreme Court putting these lockdown orders to rest....
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/us/coronavirus-wisconsin-supreme-court.html

Some stories from around the country ..............

Some of the "rules" in other states have been totally off the wall and unfounded. One in CA was such that you can go to the beach if you 'run' or exercise, but if you just sit down you are ordered to leave. It's totally off the wall and random.
I think that has finally changed though, after people were already asked to leave and now just a few days later for the same thing they can stay.

I saw a story of a 77 year old guy who owned a barber shop he said he could not go any longer without opening up so he opened despite the lock down orders. The governor of that state was disappointed but didnt do anything about it i dont think, and when asked if she had any proof that the lock down order was founded on fact she said she didnt have any proof.
And this came just days after she gave a speech where she issued very stern warnings about not obeying the lock down orders.

Another state, one of the mayors gave a speech that they would definitely arrest violators and put them in jail. The tone of her speech sounded like something right out of the Nazi files no kidding.

I am sure most of you have already heard about the Tx lady who opened her hair salon despite the lock down orders. She was arrested, and in court the judge said she was "selfish" for doing that, and she responded that because she was trying to feed her children and the workers she hired were trying to feed their children she was not being selfish so she was going to STAY open. She was given seven days in jail.I am not sure if she had to serve all that time or not.
Some days later Ted Cruz went to her salon to get a hair cut! I thought that was cool

One state had a vote where people had to go in and personally vote like usual not by mail. The so called "Experts" said that was going to cause a huge rise in the transmission of the virus and large number of deaths.. Out of thousands of people only a few dozen got infected, but none died.

Facebook started a Supreme Court of their own, where they have a "panel" of "judges" that will judge peoples posts and if they contradict the WHO's opinions on the virus they will be taken down.