You might want to be careful what you wish for. It might not play out the way you think. The problem is -- we just don't know for sure.

I'm not wishing for it at all but that's the reality we must all face unless there is a miracle cure with billions of doses by fall. I've lived through situations with much worse odds for survival before. COVID-19 is a cake walk unless you are in the high risk groups. The problem I see with the current 'lock-down' strategy is too much control on those that don't need it (young and healthy) and far too little on those that do (old and frail).

 

It was the "sooner it happens the better" part that I'm not sure about. That assumes that an infection confers "some" immunity. What if it doesn't? Do you want to infect yourself repeatedly for no good reason? Is it even remotely possible that there is no good answer?

 

It was the "sooner it happens the better" part that I'm not sure about. That assumes that an infection confers "some" immunity. What if it doesn't? Do you want to infect yourself repeatedly for no good reason? Is it even remotely possible that there is no good answer?

Every indication is that "some immunity' is happening because that's how the body eliminates the virus. If there is weak or little immunity there will never be an effective vaccine because a vaccine is a short-cut to natural herd immunity.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/arti...dens-coronavirus-strategy-will-soon-be-worlds

Swedish authorities have not officially declared a goal of reaching herd immunity, which most scientists believe is achieved when more than 60 percent of the population has had the virus. But augmenting immunity is no doubt part of the government’s broader strategy—or at least a likely consequence of keeping schools, restaurants, and most businesses open.

But Swedish authorities have argued that the country’s higher death rate will appear comparatively lower in hindsight. Efforts to contain the virus are doomed to fail in many countries, and a large percentage of people will be infected in the end. When much of the world experiences a deadly second wave, Sweden will have the worst of the pandemic behind it.

"Sooner it happens the better" means letting those young and health that eventually will be infected free from most restrictions to quicken herd immunity now so the period of tightly enforced lockdown for the old and frail can be shortened.

 

Maybe it will work out the way you think it will. I'm preparing for any of several alternatives.

 

Maybe it will work out the way you think it will. I'm preparing for any of several alternatives.

So am I but they all range from bad to worse unless I use magical thinking.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...navirus-projection-shows-110-000-deaths-by-ju
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/12/upshot/coronavirus-models.html

In Oregon we have a low numbers of new cases and only a few dead per week statewide with zero deaths for days in a row. The decision here to relax restrictions here is far easier than at the epicenters.

https://www.kptv.com/news/most-oreg...cle_cf53f2d6-93e8-11ea-97d8-ef477aed72e6.html
https://www.kptv.com/news/timberlin...cle_928bb138-94c2-11ea-aa37-ef3b20a4d867.html
https://www.kptv.com/news/city-coun...cle_daf99a6c-9525-11ea-8c00-979d29a66f04.html

 

So am I but they all range from bad to worse unless I use magical thinking.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...navirus-projection-shows-110-000-deaths-by-ju

In Oregon we have a low numbers of new cases and only a few dead per week statewide with zero deaths for days in a row. The decision here to relax restrictions here is far easier than at the epicenters.

https://www.kptv.com/news/most-oreg...cle_cf53f2d6-93e8-11ea-97d8-ef477aed72e6.html
https://www.kptv.com/news/timberlin...cle_928bb138-94c2-11ea-aa37-ef3b20a4d867.html
https://www.kptv.com/news/city-coun...cle_daf99a6c-9525-11ea-8c00-979d29a66f04.html

We all know the dangers of magical thinking. To quote Leonard Pitts a bright guy from the Miami Herald:

"I will not die of stupid"

 

'Life is not fair. Fear is cheap.'

 

Life is only cheap to...some people. Do we have to name them?

 

Life is only cheap to...some people. Do we have to name them?

Sure, I've personally seen ideology driven deaths on a massive scale happening with little reaction from the world in SE Asia.
https://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/pol-pot.htm

 

Yeah well being in the at-risk "Old and Frail" category and so far having beaten cancer, kidney, and liver disease I think I'll look to take a pass on the Chinese Death Flu, thank you very much!

 

Sure, I've personally seen ideology driven deaths on a massive scale happening with little reaction from the world in SE Asia.
https://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/pol-pot.htm

We don't even have to go that far back. Execution by anti-aircraft round is my #1, modern "life is worthless" meme.

 

Strange. I called two doctor's clinics, the Mayo clinic, and the Minnesota DOH to see if I can get an anti-body test. The answer was absolutely not and we can't tell you why not. That was it.

Then I called LabCorp. They said no problem, looks like it costs $60 and will take a 1 to 3 days.

What the heck? Why didn't any of the clinics forward me to LabCorp or other lab services? Only answer I can come up with is we are still in "lock down". I'm going to pay special attention to the specific test they give so I can investigate its accuracy.

 

Well as to the Mayo Clinic, unless you are already a patient of theirs, the waiting list can be a couple of years to get an appointment. And yes, they are currently only treating CV walk-ins from my last email from them.

 

Well, Mayo has a plasma project going as shown in this link:

https://www.uscovidplasma.org/

I emailed the contact address on the given site and received this:

"If you are interested in obtaining antibody testing, this test would need to be ordered by your local medical providers. There is an extremely limited supply of testing at this point in time, but please continue to be in contact with your local provider for updates. The NIH is recruiting 10,000 volunteers across the US for antibody testing, find the URL here: https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...uantify-undetected-cases-coronavirusinfection"

The given link is a dead URL!

Interesting link to morbidity and low testosterone in men.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...-testosterone-levels-likely-die-COVID-19.html

 

Surprisingly, as well-renowned as Mayo is, their IT seems a bit off... Hopefully it is better in-house than their I-net services are.

 

People are paranoid about COVID-19. Just wait your turn to get it along with the rest of us. When we get to 60% to 70% infected COVID-19 will fade like they all do. The sooner this happens, the better.

The contractor who completed a renovation job on my house a year and a half ago just died from it. He was only a few years older than me (55), definitely more fit, being a builder and in otherwise good health.

They really don't have a lock on why some get it worse than others aside from the obvious patients who already have issues. From what I've heard, as well, even the healthy come out of it with complications.

I think I'd rather pass on my "turn to get it". Never mind the 75,000 and counting in the US who have already died from it.

 

After Recovery From the Coronavirus, Most People Carry Antibodies
A new study adds to evidence of immunity among those who have already been exposed to the pathogen.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/health/coronavirus-antibody-prevalence.html

A new study offers a glimmer of hope in the grim fight against the coronavirus: Nearly everyone who has had the disease — regardless of age, sex or severity of illness — makes antibodies to the virus.
The study, posted online on Tuesday but not yet reviewed by experts, also hints that anyone who has recovered from infection may safely return to work — although it is unclear how long their protection might last.
“This is very good news,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University in New York who was not involved with the work.

 

After Recovery From the Coronavirus, Most People Carry Antibodies
A new study adds to evidence of immunity among those who have already been exposed to the pathogen.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/health/coronavirus-antibody-prevalence.html

That's really, really good news ... and those are so badly needed nowadays.

 

The contractor who completed a renovation job on my house a year and a half ago just died from it. He was only a few years older than me (55), definitely more fit, being a builder and in otherwise good health.

They really don't have a lock on why some get it worse than others aside from the obvious patients who already have issues. From what I've heard, as well, even the healthy come out of it with complications.

I think I'd rather pass on my "turn to get it". Never mind the 75,000 and counting in the US who have already died from it.

Then you'd better stay in lockdown until 60% get it or there is a vaccine as the virus doesn't care if you would rather pass.

 

That's really, really good news ... and those are so badly needed nowadays.

Yes, it's also really, really good news for an effective vaccine, eventually.