If you are eligible for a Flu shot, I would recommend you also get that done.

I don’t intend to be argumentative, but to clarify your statement, I would add “if you are eligible”.

Some people can’t get the flu shot or other viral vaccines. I am one. I had Guiliane Barre, and am contraindicated for most anti-viral shots.

However, my Primary Doctor DID recommend the C19 vaccine. The risks of C19 were greater than the risks of the flu Guilianne Barre.

I got vaccinated.

 

Ask yourself, what advice would you give to your grown up children regarding getting the Vaccines.?

Our grown up children made sure we were the first inline. We also would have never dreamed about being around our grandchildren less getting vaccinated and the grandkids didn't want to infect us. Unusual since when we checkout they do well.

Ron

 

Your daughter (and everybody else getting and immunization) should be concerned and informed on a detail of how the injection is given.

A long time friend of mine is spending this week preparing for his mother's funeral. She had an AstraZeneca shot and three weeks later came down with bleeding in the chest and massive blood clots in her legs. Separately, it is coming out that many immunizations are given without bothering to check to see whether the injecting is going into a vein or a muscle (where it belongs). Speculating, that the procedure for checking whether the injection into a vein or not is not being followed that is partially responsible for clots.

Darn good point. They used the fatty part on the back of my arm. Years ago it was muscle, today not so much.

Ron

 

She had an AstraZeneca shot and three weeks later came down with bleeding in the chest and massive blood clots in her legs.

That's why they don't give the Astra here, as far as I know. Only Pfizer(what I got), Moderna (what my wife got) and Johnson&Johnson.

Not to change subject too far, but my wife fell and broke a knee, is in hospital for surgery. And everyone at the hospital even doctors and nurses are only wearing the so called procedure or surgical masks. Haven't seen even one of a N95 type at all. She is only allowed 1 visitor a day, not at a time but for that whole day. And you must get temp taken and wear their mask while visiting.

 

hi shortbus,
Same problem with my daughter, tried all sorts of idea's but no luck.
Her Son told her was a Gov't plot to control us.

Guess my answer to you was deemed political, so no one else will see it. There is no easier way of describing my sons.

 

Darn good point. They used the fatty part on the back of my arm. Years ago it was muscle, today not so much.

Ron

They used the muscle for my flu shot. Many injections are done in different ways, depending on how it's supposed to be absorbed into the body. Or at least that's what my doc told me.

 

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Not to change subject too far, but my wife fell and broke a knee, is in hospital for surgery. And everyone at the hospital even doctors and nurses are only wearing the so called procedure or surgical masks. Haven't seen even one of a N95 type at all. She is only allowed 1 visitor a day, not at a time but for that whole day. And you must get temp taken and wear their mask while visiting.

Not meaning to keep this thread off topic for more than a moment, I hope your wife has a swift full recovery.

 

They used the muscle for my flu shot. Many injections are done in different ways, depending on how it's supposed to be absorbed into the body. Or at least that's what my doc told me.

Every time my doctor tells me something I ask "you went to school for this right"? It's a standing line I always use with him. Our primary care doctor is really a great guy and what is important is my wife and I place great trust in him and that is real important. Over 20 years now with him and so pleased when our last primary care doctor left for NC and Duke we ended up with him. Every referral he has given us were also tops in their field. Heck, I feel the same about our Veterinarian clinic. Need to feel comfortable with any doctor, that's real important. He stressed COVID vaccinations so we obliged.

Ron

 

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Separately, it is coming out that many immunizations are given without bothering to check to see whether the injecting is going into a vein or a muscle (where it belongs).

Had that concern ever since they quit giving Flu shots at the doctor's office and had to get them at the drugstore. I think I'd rather have it done at least by a trained and certified EMT instead of the clerk at the pharmacy they hired to answer the phone and run the register. Had my first two vaxes at my GPs office but the booster was the clerk at Walmart that was least busy doing pharmacy work. He clearly had very little experience and was very hesitant and awkward in administering the injection.

 

Not meaning to keep this thread off topic for more than a moment, I hope your wife has a swift full recovery.

I thought it might give another look at how and what masks are being used.

 

As vaccine mandates are spreading and science is forgotten...

https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2021/...-covid-19-vaccines-differs-from-an-infection/

There is a good discussion regarding natural immunity in the comments.

 

 

You seem to have missed the one thing in that video that isn't happening here. Go back and watch what he said about Denmark, near the beginning of that part. See where he talks about vaccines? They didn't refuse the vaccine, they volunteered for taking it. So by the country doing that it allows them to be more open.

Have you got you vaccine yet?

 

As vaccine mandates are spreading and science is forgotten...

https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2021/...-covid-19-vaccines-differs-from-an-infection/

There is a good discussion regarding natural immunity in the comments.

I saw the pre-print that they are referring to here, but it has not been peer reviewed yet (It was posted 25/8 to the medRxiv preprint server, which means it has not been peer-reviewed and “has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community.”)

It is worth putting on your radar, but we'll have to wait to see if it has any problems with the study in the peer review process.

One of the things that it did rely on is people getting retested. This can introduce bias in the data because the people who would not get vaccinated probably wouldn't go and get retested.

What I'd be looking for is a study that looked at the mechanisms of the immunity and compared the actual behaviour of the antibodies like the ones mentioned in your article (here)

(Antibodies elicited by mRNA-1273 vaccination bind more broadly to the receptor binding domain than do those from SARS-CoV-2 infection. Greaney AJ, Loes AN, Gentles LE, Crawford KHD, Starr TN, Malone KD, Chu HY, Bloom JD. Sci Transl Med. 2021 Jun 8.)

 

You seem to have missed the one thing in that video that isn't happening here. Go back and watch what he said about Denmark, near the beginning of that part. See where he talks about vaccines? They didn't refuse the vaccine, they volunteered for taking it. So by the country doing that it allows them to be more open.


Have you got you vaccine yet?

What are you even talking about? Vaccination numbers are quite high in the US actually. And yes of course there will always be people who choose not to take it for whatever reason. Well that is THEIR business. Not YOURS!

Almost everyone has sufficient antibodies at this point so the question itself is practically moot anyway. The virus is has mostly run its course. The Covid pandemic is OVER...

 

The Covid pandemic is OVER...

It is not:

Russia hits new record for COVID-19 deaths, resists lockdown​

 

Well that is THEIR business. Not YOURS!

I think that we need to stop and take some calm breaths!

The virus is has mostly run its course. The Covid pandemic is OVER...

Let's not forget that covid is a world wide issue, not just the USA.

 

I think that we need to stop and take some calm breaths!

Agreed ... I was going to respond to that but I'm taking some time out ...

 

I think that we need to stop and take some calm breaths!

Well people should stop bullying others about the issue then. It is of course perfectly fine to tell someone why you recommend getting the shot. So just leave it at that! Most will probably follow your advice anyway. As for the rest, leave them be.

Let's not forget that covid is a world wide issue, not just the USA.

I was in fact referring to the entire world. Covid has already bounced from one corner of the globe to the other several times over now. Eventually it will just naturally sputter out. And for the most part it is doing just that.

On a side note while some high risk groups DO continue to see sharp numbers in deaths, the majority actually seem to have enough "immuno-awareness" to fight the virus reasonably well. Who would have thunk? The human immune system isn't totally helpless after all...

It is not:

Russia hits new record for COVID-19 deaths, resists lockdown​

The article referenced does however close with this:

But life remains largely normal in Moscow, St. Petersburg and many other Russian cities, with businesses operating as usual and mask mandates loosely enforced. In Moscow, the authorities expanded free coronavirus tests in shopping malls, hoping it would help stem contagion.

Again Covid is certainly nothing to scoff at. But it isn't destined to become the bane of humanity either. We WILL pull through this. Vaccine or not...