Controlling the supply to a Hall effect Sensor (A3144E) with another A3144E

Irving

Joined Jan 30, 2016
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Is the solenoid a 2-position latching device or spring-biassed so requiring power to be applied to maintain one position? I'm guessing the N52 you refer to is a magnet and you want to switch the solenoid on or off with the magnet - by its presence or its polarity?

Do you have a specific hall effect sensor in mind? Most simple hall effect devices output 2.5v when no field is present and 0.2v for a S-pole and 5v for a N-pole, so some additional logic needed unless you can guarantee magnet polarity and strength.


Edit: Missed the A3144 reference in the title doh!
 
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Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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Do you actually have the A3144E's ? When I checked for a datasheet it seems the A3144 is no longer in production (although advertised by online sellers via Amazon), and has been replaced by the A1104.
Googling "latch circuit schematic" will get you plenty of examples of latch circuits.
 

sghioto

Joined Dec 31, 2017
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As the title states; what would be the most effective way to latch the transistor "closed" using the output from another "always on" sensor - then have it turn back on by biasing the transistor the other way again, using yet another sensor?
Is this what you are trying to accomplish?
H1 activates the solenoid and Q1 performs the latch.
H2 is powered through Q2 and resets latch.
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sghioto

Joined Dec 31, 2017
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Also, am I right in saying that were the sensors in the diagram momentary push buttons, it'd operate the other way around, seeing as these sensors provide a "negative" signal, or am I mistaken?
Not sure your meaning but a push button could provide either a negative or positive signal depending on how it's configured.
The hall sensors have an open drain FET transistor in their outputs which would be the same as a momentary switch with one side connected to ground providing a negative output.
 

Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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The Skinner device has a claimed 1200% energy increase and is a scam. Any 'over-unity' device is a scam. By all means build a latching circuit for your education, but don't expect free energy.
 

Irving

Joined Jan 30, 2016
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Using a step down buck with I/V control, circuit will be running at 18v / 1A for now.
planning to step it up to some 80v and probably more current though as this will work better (shorter on time)
Prototype need not use such high voltage.

One more question- were I to use PNP BJT and N-MOSFET how would the connections differ?
Same circuit in concept but all devices reversed- but the hall-effect devices can't be reversed so will require additional parts. Better to stick with P-channelMOSFET
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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Yeah ok what happens then?
You’d have to study physics to find out for yourself. The Big Bang theory says the universe started as a singularity. There are theories that state once the universe loses sufficient energy, then it will collapse unto itself… to a singularity. And the cycle begins again.

Of course, this is with respect to our universe. String Theory has projected that at any point in our time, there are multiple universes co-existing. I found it easy to understand based on other theories that our universe doesn’t exist in four dimensions, but rather as much as eleven.

This isn’t my opinion. It has been stated by many, including Nobel prize physicist Stephen Hawking.

But I’ve co-opted your thread enough…
 

sghioto

Joined Dec 31, 2017
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Surely their turn on requirements are different?
Usually. Change R2 to 10K also. Are you sure you have it connected correctly especially concerning the pins on the transistors?
Do you have a solenoid connected? Do you have any other smaller transistors you can use for Q1 and Q2?
 
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