@Moderators

Of late, it seems political discussions have taken over AAC. For example, here are some political threads from approximately October to December:

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/t...for-someone-else.127958/page-114#post-1067788 (20,099 views, 2276 replies as of 0820 12/4/16)
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/castro.129752/
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/the-war-on-cops-another-chapter.125618/
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/my-concise-political-analysis.129222/
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/elections-over-so-can-we-flush-now.129234/
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/t...d-to-open-a-new-one-clock-boy-returns.126427/
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/will-the-fun-begin-now.128010/
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/t...rs-chinese-methodologies.130007/#post-1068033

On the other hand, some political threads have been closed quickly:

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/dress-discrimination.129880/

Aside from the absence of certain prominent members contributing to the latter thread, what is the rationale for closing the one but allowing the many to stay open?

Is this change in forum culture permanent?

John

 

As a matter of personal policy I have decided to avoid all Off-topic threads. I just don't find them even slightly amusing anymore.

 

Politics has gotten out of hand. There are OPs that had nothing to do with politics but the thread somehow devolved into politics. Case in point, the thread about the tradegy in California.

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/the-death-trap-in-oakland.129984/

The very second post took it to politics.


I am waiting for an argument to break out in General Electronics on what administration will build better components.

 

Make electronic components great again.

Oooops! Did it again. My bad.

 

On the other hand, some political threads have been closed quickly:

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/dress-discrimination.129880/

Because the Mod's knew you were wrong and didn't want any of the smarter members wasting their time correcting you.

Is this change in forum culture permanent?

I hope so.

 

@GopherT : I must apologize for expecting a higher level of dialog than you seem capable of.

I couldn't disagree with you more about the direction AAC should take in the future. AAC used to provide a site where mostly adults could discuss electronics without the constant hiss from politics, news media, social correctness, and slaves to ideologic dogma. There are still such sites around, such as EEVBlog (http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php) and EDABoard (http://www.edaboard.com/) plus device-specific forums such as the Microchip forums.

I hope you are in the minority, but based on the utter silence of AAC's stake-holders, I fear that you are not.

John

 

@GopherT : I must apologize for expecting a higher level of dialog than you seem capable of.

I couldn't disagree with you more about the direction AAC should take in the future. AAC used to provide a site where mostly adults could discuss electronics without the constant hiss from politics, news media, social correctness, and slaves to ideologic dogma. There are still such sites around, such as EEVBlog (http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php) and EDABoard (http://www.edaboard.com/) plus device-specific forums such as the Microchip forums.

I hope you are in the minority, but based on the utter silence of AAC's stake-holders, I fear that you are not.

John

How do you cry about AAC having too much politics here, but turn a tragedy into a political thread here...

 

@GopherT
1) I was absolutely right in my comment. Democrat corruption was responsible for the lax enforcement of laws that led to those deaths. Who are you to tell me I cannot participate in an on-going discussion like any other member? But, for once, can you try to stay on subject?
2) Why is it that you seem incapable of understanding the need to discuss whether it is in the best interests s of AAC to facilitate such emotionally charged discussions? I never go to Facebook, Twitter, or any of the other social sites where such discussions are rampant. There are at least two other places on Earth where one can escape fools like you and discuss electronics. Why shouldn't AAC be a third?

John

 

@GopherT
1) I was absolutely right in my comment. Democrat corruption was responsible for the lax enforcement of laws that led to those deaths. Who are you to tell me I cannot participate in an on-going discussion like any other member? But, for once, can you try to stay on subject?
2) Why is it that you seem incapable of understanding the need to discuss whether it is in the best interests s of AAC to facilitate such emotionally charged discussions? I never go to Facebook, Twitter, or any of the other social sites where such discussions are rampant. There are at least two other places on Earth where one can escape fools like you and discuss electronics. Why shouldn't AAC be a third?

John

Whether you are right or not, how do you manage to be the first to bring politics into one discussion then run to "Feedback and Discussion" section to complain there is too much politics talk on AAC. Either you want to stay away from political talk or you don't. Please pick one. Once you've made your decision I am willing to discuss options with you. Let me know your answer.

 

Well it seems like it's about time for you to delete all of your post's and input to threads again John, like you did before. Your post in the thread Gopher quoted was #2, how is that not "taking" the thread in a political direction? Participation on AAC is voluntary, not mandatory. And yet I still love you.

 

Personally, I do not like this change.

 

@GopherT
1) I was absolutely right in my comment. Democrat corruption was responsible for the lax enforcement of laws that led to those deaths. Who are you to tell me I cannot participate in an on-going discussion like any other member? But, for once, can you try to stay on subject?

John makes a full paragraph out of how correct his politically-charged comment was before he blames me for not staying on subject - Subject being, there is too much political talk. Too funny.

Personally, I do not like this change.

We are trying to determine if John likes or dislikes political talk as well. I think John only likes political talk when:
(1) he initiates it, AND,
(2) everyone agrees with him.

 

We are trying to determine if John likes or dislikes political talk as well. I think John only likes political talk when:
(1) he initiates it, AND,
(2) everyone agrees with him.

And we risk the chance if he is not totally agreed with, he will delete his content and leave. Like in the past.

 

Just my 2 cents:

I actually enjoy discussing (debating, arguing, whatever) politics with those who also enjoy my other interests.

I don't know why anyone is bothered or offended by threads they are not forced to read. I don't read a majority of threads simply because I am not interested.

OTOH, I do whole-heartedly support an opt-in political sub-forum such that those who are only interested in electronics will not be "assaulted" (and/or "click-baited") by political thread titles. Consider it the "political arm" of AAC where we can plot the take-over (or destruction, if that is your bent) of the universe.

And I also support a rule that anyone posting a political comment outside the political sub-forum have his post removed and possibly be punished with a short-term ban.

To those offended by political posts, let me remind you: everything is politics, at least to some extent.

Even electronics.

 

Just my 2 cents:

I actually enjoy discussing (debating, arguing, whatever) politics with those who also enjoy my other interests.

I don't know why anyone is bothered or offended by threads they are not forced to read. I don't read a majority of threads simply because I am not interested.

OTOH, I do whole-heartedly support an opt-in political sub-forum such that those who are only interested in electronics will not be "assaulted" (and/or "click-baited") by political thread titles. Consider it the "political arm" of AAC where we can plot the take-over (or destruction, if that is your bent) of the universe.

And I also support a rule that anyone posting a political comment outside the political sub-forum have his post removed and possibly be punished with a short-term ban.

To those offended by political posts, let me remind you: everything is politics, at least to some extent.

Even electronics.

I rarely agree with you, but when I do, I get a really odd feeling in my stomach that seems like the end is near. I guess it would be easier if we keep it quiet and don't tell anyone that we agree.

 

Consider it the "political arm" of AAC where we can plot the take-over (or destruction, if that is your bent) of the universe.

Likewise, we can have a militant arm with which to execute our plans. I vote @tcmtech as general.

 

I don't know why anyone is bothered or offended by threads they are not forced to read.

I'm not bothered or offended (at least not anymore) by the discussions themselves; I mostly ignore them anymore. What does bother me though, at least a little, is the level of animosity I've often seen in those threads when I've checked in from time to time: it's hard to believe it doesn't have some kind of spillover effect on the electronics forums, at least in terms of people's enthusiasm for participating. On the other hand, if they want to "walk away mad" then I suppose that's on them; they do have the option of not participating in (or even viewing) the political threads. And not viewing them works.

OTOH, I do whole-heartedly support an opt-in political sub-forum such that those who are only interested in electronics will not be "assaulted" (and/or "click-baited") by political thread titles.

I think this is a excellent idea. We should do it.

Consider it the "political arm" of AAC where we can plot the take-over (or destruction, if that is your bent) of the universe.

I reserve my takeover/destruction plotting for another site that's not open (or visible) to the public. It's an approach that works for me, but YMMV.

And I also support a rule that anyone posting a political comment outside the political sub-forum have his post removed and possibly be punished with a short-term ban.

Another excellent idea, though one alternative to post removal and/or banning would be simply to move the affected thread into the opt-in political area once the discussion turns political.

Just my 2 cents...

 

Another excellent idea, though one alternative to post removal and/or banning would be simply to move the affected thread into the opt-in political area once the discussion turns political.

My reason for removal and ban: it is an incentive to not try to turn non-political threads political. Once the message sinks in, the mods will, hopefully, have little work to do to enforce it.

 

What does bother me though, at least a little, is the level of animosity I've often seen in those threads when I've checked in from time to time

+1000

 

OTOH, I do whole-heartedly support an opt-in political sub-forum such that those who are only interested in electronics will not be "assaulted" (and/or "click-baited") by political thread titles.

That's an excellent solution but to a problem that needn't exist in the first place -- By what stretch of logic does political discussion have a place on this site?

To those offended by political posts, let me remind you: everything is politics, at least to some extent.

That 'purity' is not to be found among the properties of 'existential reality' is hardly profound -- Thus it seems we somehow manage to 'navigate the preponderances'

With best regards and genuine respect to all concerned
HP