He's not using surface mount LEDs. SMT are the only RGB LEDs I've seen with 6 terminals.And why not?
He's not using surface mount LEDs. SMT are the only RGB LEDs I've seen with 6 terminals.And why not?
Touché.Will it keep good time?
Dennis, What do you think about using 4013 between 4017s to toggle signal?I use an old free version of Eagle (4.13r1). The pull-up resistor can be 10k.
I'd use counter chips to make mod 60 and mod 12 counters.
For the minutes/seconds LEDs, I'd use the LSD counter and convert the outputs to decimal. For instance, using CD4029 as the counter (because I happen to have some) and CD4028 BCD to decimal decoder. That handles LEDs representing 0-9. Then I'd use the MSD counter with another CD4028 to decode 0-5 and use that to drive 6 banks of 10 LEDs.
For minutes (or seconds), 2 CD4029 and 2 CD4028.
I wouldn't go down that path.What do you think about using 4013 between 4017s to toggle signal?
What do you thing about using 4013 to toggle signal between 4017s?The problem is that one LED will always be on whenever a CD4017 is enabled. So you can't use the Q0 output when the counter isn't disabled.
It was how you labeled the LEDs.
RGB LEDs will complicate the circuit I posted. I could use a single current limiting resistor for all 60 LEDs. Plus I'm switching both the anode and cathodes of the LEDs. You can't do that with RGB LEDs.
Sorry, double posted. Why not?I wouldn't go down that path.
No reason to respond I think I know why, going to try NAND gates.Sorry, double posted. Why not?

I think it's more appropriate to use counter chips (to implement mod 60 and mod 12 counters) to make a clock.Sorry, double posted. Why not?
It will keep good time if you use AC Line frequency for the time base.Will it keep good time?
And does the hours LED move along every 12 minutes? So that it completes a whole revolution of 60 LEDs in 12 hours?I'm not sure you've considered all of the ramifications of using the same LEDs for hours, minutes, and seconds.
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But don't use Eagle.....use KiCAD.Thanks again Dennis, I'll look into your idea!
Yeah i get it. So at 12 o'clock the first led is red while leds cascade blue around the clock in seconds, when it reaches 12 oclock the red will turn violet for a second and second led will turn green. I get that at 12:05 the corresponding led will be yellow, and white for a second. My thought process is to use cd4060 for seconds/minutes/hours and 6 4017s for seconds, 6 4017s for minutes, and 2 4016s for hours if I can get them to work dammit. By the way dont let my user name fool you, Im a retired electrical contractor and it was a nickname my co-workers gave me.I'm not sure you've considered all of the ramifications of using the same LEDs for hours, minutes, and seconds.
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Aside from the time base,decoding and driving the display are the big challenges, with vastly different levels of complexity and parts counts.Thanks for your input. Ultmalely I want to build a 12 hour clock with 60 rgb leds, blue -seconds,green -minutes, and red hours. Im old fashioned and retired, so no microproccessors please, Ive got a lot of time on my hands. I stumbbled on the idea when I unpacked my scope and was looking for a circuit to play with it on, then I ran into 4017s and was intantly enamored. Im going to be using CD4060s for my time base and 4013s attain the correct frequency. A lready have an oscillator runnig on my circuit thats running prfectly. The circuit I posted is to help me better learn the 4017 and if my idea is plausable Sorry to bore you with all this but hopefully you'll better understand where Im comming from. Thanks again.
You mean separate clocks for seconds, minutes, and hours instead of having seconds drive minutes, and minutes drive hours?My thought process is to use cd4060 for seconds/minutes/hours
It would be helpful if you showed a schematic or block diagram for this. If you drive the LEDs using the circuit in post #9, 6 isn't enough. If you multiplex them as I did in post #30, 3 should be sufficient. But, you can't do that because you want to use RGB LEDs.6 4017s for seconds, 6 4017s for minutes
How can analog switches be used for hours?2 4016s for hours if I can get them to work dammit
multiplexing is simple but regardless if using single IC like in post 48, or several ICs like in post 30, there is going to be a lot of traces to take care of. the lowest part count and simplest routing is to use addressable LEDs. then PCB layout becomes trivial:Thus the only thing I would add, is that you should definitely consider multiplexing your display, to keep the amount of wiring and discrete components to a sane level. The example in post #30 by DL234 is a good one.

As I suggested in post #39.the lowest part count and simplest routing is to use addressable LEDs.
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