Will we see a real self driving car in our life time?

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  1. nsaspook

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    http://www.slate.com/articles/techn...ing_cars_will_exacerbate_organ_shortages.html
     
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    Don't worry, us motorcyclists will never submit to anything that takes human input away from us, so be assured the squids will be a source of organs.
    It took all of 10 minutes for one the first bikes that came with ABS to be confused by a rider on dirt.
     
  3. nsaspook

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    I was a street bike rider for a long time in my youth I think that giving ABS to a beginner with little experience in manual front/rear brake control is a mixed blessing as they will tend to treat brakes as a off/on switch that will fail just when they need the experiences of handling brake lockup the most. That said I don't ride anymore, far too many idiot cage drivers on the road for my taste and most of my old organs are just not up to max efficiency these days.
     
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    I actually talked to some guests at a party last week about this very point. Aside from the lawsuits (topic of the night as those were mostly lawyers and investors), the ethics question would be the most interesting to tackle.

    I think in the end, there is a large or even vital role for the governments to play, both on the legal / insurance and ethics fronts, for self-driving cars to materialize.
     
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    Why not make a table for the angle and rate of angle, for the 3 axis, in which the car is considered out of control or un-correctable.....and if that is a true condition........do what happens in human accidents.....let nature take it's course.

    That is ....no control action and let inertia take it's course. No fault insurance.

    Of course some lawyer will say that the software should have never let the car get in that condition in the first place.
     
  7. nsaspook

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    Just add the Securefoam system.
     
  8. dannyf

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    the fundamental issue here is that:

    1) by driving the cars via software, the auto OEMs are drivers;
    2) those "OEM drivers" have deep pockets, making them a natural target for litigation.

    the cost to sue anyone, especially if you are a lawyer, is minimum, yet the potential payoff can be huge.
     
  9. GopherT

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    As stated above, the decision tree of who to sacrifice in each situation will be solved through legislation. Auto companies will eventually be protected by law just like firearm manufacturers are currently protected from lawsuit.
     
  10. Boris Davenport

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    Hope it will be implemented soon (before 2025)
     
  11. nsaspook

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    https://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2017/02/self-driving-car-insurance-liability-uk/
     
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  13. nsaspook

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    http://www.autoblog.com/2017/02/21/race-for-autonomous-cars-is-over-mcelroy-autoline-opinion/
    The reality of the marketplace sucks.
     
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    Give them a few more years and you can see it in real life.
     
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    What an idiot, 74 mph on a highway with uncontrolled intersections.

    Who the hell at Florida DOT posted a 65 mph speed limit on a non limited access highway - let alone one with uncontrolled intersections.

    This was also the guy, I believe, who posted YouTube videos where he is playing on his phone while the Tesla is in self driving mode.
     
  17. SanyDay

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    i don't trust in these self driving cars, its looks too suspicious, they can be hacked as any computer.
     
  18. MrAl

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    Hi,

    The gov protects us against nuclear war but does nothing about the "marketplace". It has a gov of it's own that pushes for higher price with lower quality as a rule of thumb. There's no way a civilization can survive forever with that kind of trend. Doomsday prophecy? No not really because that would be noticed more clearly. This is like a very slow road to doomsday.
     
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  19. nsaspook

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    What's the alternative, central control of markets, manufacturing, goods and services that leads to a even quicker Doomsday prophecy? The very slow road sounds much better.
     
  20. MrAl

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    Hello,

    It appears that by your own personal estimation that there is nothing better, but how do you know that your idea of what is apparently the single and only alternative is worse, even if it was the only alternative. You're suggesting that animals run free, but we already know that. It's is clear that doing nothing is not a solution. If it was, we would not need government. Note the word "govern" in "government" :)
     
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