What makes a song a hit ?

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
16,340
Oh, and while we are here, can we all just admit that the music (if you can call it that) of today just sucks?

It's like they've taken centuries of music theory development and thrown it out the window -- in favor of random computer generated crap, superficial lyrics, and auto-tuned vocalists. Does anyone even play an instrument anymore?
There is still good modern music but it seems rare because of the massive volume of total garbage. Most of my working/thinking music is Ambient. There are plenty of good artists in that genre but it's not everyone's cup of tea.
 

strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
6,875
BR-549 is an acquired taste. I didn't understand him for quite a long time. After you figure out his brain wiring, he makes a lot more sense.;)
Ok maybe you can translate or at least give me a pointer. Who said anything about a PHD? I didn't see anything at all about a PHD until the rant. Is there someone who has blocked me maybe, who commented about a PHD and I can't see it?
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
18,224
Ok maybe you can translate or at least give me a pointer. Who said anything about a PHD? I didn't see anything at all about a PHD until the rant. Is there someone who has blocked me maybe, who commented about a PHD and I can't see it?
TS profile says, "phd student".
TS mentioned this in post #5.
Only you can block yourself from seeing posts. O.P. (other people) can not stop you seeing what they post.
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
439
While I enjoy grunge when the mood is right, I'd not consider the period "our time" -- and definitely not as innovative as the 50s, 60s, 70s, or 80s.
Today's music is crap. Diverse crap... 50-70's were great. By our time, I meant most recent music history, so grunge, to me would be the last innovative musical contribution. I do not consider it important to compare it to other events as it was a product of its own time and place, like jazz, like music that came out of industrial England etc...

disclaimer: this is a personal opinion and is not meant to reflect blah blah blah
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
18,224
50-70's were great.
It depends. I spent summers in the 1950's on a farm in Kentucky. The same 10 songs played over and over, all crying about, "My hound dog died", "My pick-up truck is broken" or, "My sex partner cheated on me". Gee, the world is so awful and I'm so lonesome I could die.:( That was enough to put me off listening to the radio for about 10 years.:(

Back to the city and add ten years, and my musical world lit up!:)
That's when I bought a guitar.:cool:
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
439
What's a hit depends on your music tastes and mood like women when dating. There are junk hits that are easy to promote and sell the to public like cotton candy

and then there are "hit's" that last a lifetime or more.
While true, how many people would regard Kind of Blue as a hit? It is a masterpiece, and watching Miles Davis Quintet play is like watching magic happening - 4 people completely in tune with each other... That is music. A hit os only that, a hit - here today, gone tomorrow... unless you are Feddie Mercury writting stadium anthems, now that was special

 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
439
It depends. I spent summers in the 1950's on a farm in Kentucky. The same 10 songs played over and over, all crying about, "My hound dog died", "My pick-up truck is broken" or, "My sex partner cheated on me". Gee, the world is so awful and I'm so lonesome I could die.:( That was enough to put me off listening to the radio for about 10 years.:(

Back to the city and add ten years, and my musical world lit up!:)
That's when I bought a guitar.:cool:
Hmmm, sounds similar to what is played on country station one town over. There is no other station. The station continues for 300 km span (country zone once left coast). I had to buy an adapter for my car so that I could play misic off my phone, otherwise I just feel like shooting all the cheating relatives and dog murderers (sometimes dog is poisoned...)
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
16,340
While true, how many people would regard Kind of Blue as a hit? It is a masterpiece, and watching Miles Davis Quintet play is like watching magic happening - 4 people completely in tune with each other... That is music. A hit os only that, a hit - here today, gone tomorrow... unless you are Feddie Mercury writting stadium anthems, now that was special

I almost used 'Kind of Blue' as my lifetime hit so I'm a member of that group. I would say there is big difference between a masterpiece of a song and a hit song. It's rare they combine and probability always will be.
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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The majority of the music that's on public radio is manufactured music.

https://www.google.com/search?q=why...e.1.69i57j0.7381j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

It appeals the the majority of the ignorant unthinking masses who the music corporations make the most money off of so the industry tends to favor playing what brings them the most money.

It pretty much in line with how the country music genre was dying back in the 80's and 90's until they reformulated it to sound a lot less country and a lot more generic rock in theme and tone which at this point is how it came to it's largely ' urban bro country' format crap above and beyond the classical country crap sound it had years ago.
 

strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
6,875
Over the last decade or so my musical tastes have diversified; I listen to lots of kinds of music now, but my main staple has always been rock. When I was in high school (2000-2004) there were 3 rock stations, and they played hard(ish) stuff like Metallica, System of a Down, Korn, etc. The softest they went was like Blink-182, and we complained that wasn't hard enough. That was near San Antonio. Now over a decade later I live in Houston, and there is only 1 (ONE) rock station, and on their best day the hardest they play is AWOLNation; Mostly it's Mumford Sons type stuff. It's alternative at best; really it's just another pop station.

Now I'm not saying that I don't like Mumford Sons, Kongos, Arcitic Monkeys and all that, I do like it sometimes. But other times I want to hear the soundtrack to something being destroyed. That kind of music isn't on the radio anymore, and I assume that's all over the place since Houston is a huge city and should be a good cross-sectional representation of the country.

Pop completely destroyed country (I also like country). Pop raped it, burned it, and scattered it's ashes. The country now is pop, it's just that the "artists" wear bedazzled denim instead of meat dresses. And now pop is trying (succeeding) to do the same thing to rock. WHY? WHY can't pop just stay in its lane? There is room for pop, country, and rock, all on the air waves. I promise, if I get my country and rock stations back, I'll still listen to pop sometimes. I PROMISE.

Until then I'll be listening to instrumentals on Pandora because if you can't put together intelligent lyrics then don't put any at all.
 
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