Wattage in voltage devider

ISB123

Joined May 21, 2014
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C1=100 uF 20V
C2=300uF 20V
D1=FAST RECOVERY Schottky diode 30V 3A
R2=3K 1W
R1= 1K 1W
L1=100 uH

Heat dissipation:

Pd=5Vx2A=10W
Pd=10W/77%(0.77)
Pd=13W~
Pd=13W-10W= 3W
Junction to case=2C/W
3Wx2C/W=25+6=31C°

Max temp. of the regulator should be 31C° If my calculus is right.
Q1=I'd like to add, how will I know what LM2576 delivers?

Q2=But how do they make them so small?, is my matchbox sized nokia charger got a transformer in it?
Q1=LM2576 will deliver 2A of current incase you draw more the voltage will drop and regulator overheat unless it has overload protection.

Q2=They have small PCB mounted transformers.
This is very small like 2x2cm.

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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
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Brilliant ISB123! Thanks Thanks Thanks! I could only buy 2W resistors, and 3kohm isn't a standard value at yebo or mantech, so i'll just use 1k and then 3*1k for the 3k... that'll work shouldn't it?
One problem when I "checked out" my order this morning, I only had one diode to choose from that I think would work, was I correct: http://www.fort777.co.za/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=269_456_605_607_611&products_id=3254 ? Its:

BAT85 Fast Recovery Schottky barrier. (
FML33S Ultra Fast Diode 300V/10A (SEQ81H)
R24.49 <--- too expensive, and I hoped the BAT85 (cheap) would do)

Planar Schottky barrier diode with an integrated protection ring against static discharges, DO-34 package.
FEATURES
· Low forward voltage
· Guard ring protected
· Hermetically-sealed leaded glass package.
APPLICATIONS
· Ultra high-speed switching
· Voltage clamping
· Protection circuits
· Blocking diodes.

Datasheet: http://www.fort777.co.za/images/Datasheets/SEQ87H.pdf

VR continuous reverse voltage − 30 V
IFSM non-repetitive peak forward current tp ≤ 10 ms − 5 A
 
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ISB123

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Yes you can put them in series and they will require less wattage like 0,5W.Both diodes are fine so buy one which is cheaper.
 

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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
546
Yes you can put them in series and they will require less wattage like 0,5W.Both diodes are fine so buy one which is cheaper.
I thought only resistors in parallel will require less wattage, why is this? voltage drop over each resistor? I bought 3 in a pack for R5/pack, that's R1.70 per resistor (2W), if I bought 0.5W it would have been R0.60 per resistor (in packs of 10)... I call these errors school fees, cause now I know for next time, alas, deal is done :) oh and the BAT85, I knew this morning that it could be wrong, and then that that "school fees" I'm willing to pay, I'll put it in my ever growing components wall, and someday have a use for it.
 

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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
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I thought only resistors in parallel will require less wattage, why is this? voltage drop over each resistor? I bought 3 in a pack for R5/pack, that's R1.70 per resistor (2W), if I bought 0.5W it would have been R0.60 per resistor (in packs of 10)... I call these errors school fees, cause now I know for next time, alas, deal is done :) oh and the BAT85, I knew this morning that it could be wrong, and then that that "school fees" I'm willing to pay, I'll put it in my ever growing components wall, and someday have a use for it.
Like I said, component wall: I have one 10 pack 1K 0.5W resistors, I'll use them before I use the 2W ones (can't get 1W)
 

ISB123

Joined May 21, 2014
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Yeah it's because Voltage drop across the resistors but 2W is better than 0.5W.Its always better to be safe then sorry.;)
 

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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
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cool ;-) I'm only getting to Mantech on Friday (for the switching ic), then I'll put this on breadboard (is that electronically possible? limits on the breadboard, etc?) Then I'll let you know my results. If I can't get it on breadboard, then vero board, but I'd Much prefer breadboard?
 

ISB123

Joined May 21, 2014
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It needs to be on veroboard because switching regulators are very sensitive devices.C1,C2 and D1 need to have their ground connection as short as possible and close to regulator as possible.
 

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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
546
It needs to be on veroboard because switching regulators are very sensitive devices.C1,C2 and D1 need to have their ground connection as short as possible and close to regulator as possible.
Damn, I know it's a necessity but I'm paranoid of veroboard, build a buzzzer circuit the 3rd time now (2 times fail, printed the design and keep on finding reasons not to do 3rd try), doesn't work (use auto route on VeeCAD), I guess it's always bridging, although I can't see anything wrong. But your circuit is pretty simple, hopefully it works.
 

BobTPH

Joined Jun 5, 2013
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Chillum,

You are bouncing all over the place on this thread. You are approaching it like this is going to be the last power supply you will build.

Just build a simple, 1A 7805 regulated power supply and be done with it. This should last you through a lot of experimentation with logic and microcontrollers. If you need something bigger a year from now, you will be more experienced and better able to do it.

Bob
 

ISB123

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It doesn't. In case you notice it getting a bit hot just put a small heatsink that you can make at home with some aluminum sheet.
 

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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
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It doesn't. In case you notice it getting a bit hot just put a small heatsink that you can make at home with some aluminum sheet.
I have NONE machining tools, I have a hand powered drill for vero board, and a paper cutter (those rectangular blades that shift out)
 

ISB123

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That one is fine.Do you use veroboard with holes or the copper board which you have to etch?
Can you design your own PCB?
 
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