Now ..I guess this will help in understanding for those who might be wondering why I congratulated tom for saying there is no God.
I did not see this but I somehow felt it. See why I believe

I have already said I am an atheist.

 

Bill
About that email....I have to take some time off on that....that note contradicts to my beliefs somewhat....
What you have is probably an altered one.

Take all the time you need Rifaa.

I have access to several copies of the Torah. They all agree on these points.

I am truly am sorry they contradict your beliefs, but that is kind of the point of our discussion. By my count there are dozens of contradictions in Genesis alone. It gets worse from there. However, this is stuff I am not allowed to share. Not here anyway.

 

There are over 130 contridictions in the Quran.

There are over 200 in the King James version of the Bible.

The Pinto EXPLODED when rear ended, because the engineers were talking about religion when designing it, got mad and didn't realize they attached the rear bumper to the GAS TANK!

How did I become the voice of reason?

I think the cartoon about the mayan calender is correct.

ROCKS ARE HEAVY! They had to decide on a size.

2012 is divisible by 32

IF months were 32 days long back then it makes sense.

Why dont our calendars go that far ahead? Mine only goes to 2011.

So you know what I do?



I get another.



__How about them (Insert sports team here) ?

 

Back to the orignal topic.

The Mayans do not predict the end of the world on December 21st, 2012. This is from folks reading to much into one particular calendar of theirs we call the Long Count calendar. It just ends there as a matter of convenience. It is the end of a cycle and another cycle, or 14 cycles, can be tacked on to it.

20 days =1 uinal (like a month, probably based on agricultural cycles)

18 uinal = 1 tun (5 days short of a year. One of their calendars, the Haab, made up for this with 5 nameless days at the end. That was a scary time for the Mayan)

20 tun = 1 k’atun (About a generation)

20 k’atun = 1 b’ak’tun (about 394 years)

Dec 21, 2012 marks the end of the 14th b’ak’tun since the beginning of their long count calendar. We have calculated the beginning of their calendar as August 11, 3114 BC. So if we tack on 14 b’ak’tun to that date, we get Dec 21, 2012 (Gregorian). There is nothing more to it than that. There is no special significance to this end of cycle more than any other in their writings.

There were many Mayan calendars. Some counted time in cycles of days, others in cycles of 20 day months. They even combined them for simplicity sake. One such combination resets every 52 years (once in a life-time, for them).

Others cycled every 260 days and still others every 365 days (the Haab). The all had 20 day months (uinal) though.

The Mayans had too darn many calendars…

 

So the movie sucked?

 

Mayans still exist today, many 'indians' of central America and Mexico are of Mayan decent. I think that we (modern people) are taking this too literal. End of the world to ancient people, really meant end of their world, their culture. NOT the end of Earth.

The world has ended many times. All geological periods end and a new one starts. If this did not or does not happen, we(humans) wouldn't be here!

 

True. American Indians had prophecy that the world would end when white man arrived.

Well, look what happened. The world as they knew it, ended.

 

Tell me...where can one find the true source for Mayan's history...

What is so great about them that makes their calender important..
Those guys are history for god's sake...so forget em.

Just talk about how we all are going to die in this miserable world of a planet

The Mayans were great astronomers. Without telescopes they predicted eclipses of the sun and moon for centuries ahead of their time. The eclipse predictions are still on par with what we know today.

In almost all ways they were as advanced as the Egyptians.

 

That's what it always cracks up to be.....Mayans had too many calenders....
There research contradicted with there calender I think..

If you have too much of something, what can you truly hold on to.

In the meantime..I got to get me a good copy of that 2012 movie. what I watched sucked both ways in quality.

It will be mass hysteria at that date..you can count on it..That is what us humans resort to.

"THE END IS NEIGH" or wud sum 1 correct me

 

The Mayans were great astronomers. Without telescopes they predicted eclipses of the sun and moon for centuries ahead of their time. The eclipse predictions are still on par with what we know today.

Ok Time out..tell me

When did Mayans ruled and where....I need to know

 

Back to the orignal topic.

The Mayans do not predict the end of the world on December 21st, 2012. This is from folks reading to much into one particular calendar of theirs we call the Long Count calendar. It just ends there as a matter of convenience. It is the end of a cycle and another cycle, or 14 cycles, can be tacked on to it.

20 days =1 uinal (like a month, probably based on agricultural cycles)

18 uinal = 1 tun (5 days short of a year. One of their calendars, the Haab, made up for this with 5 nameless days at the end. That was a scary time for the Mayan)

20 tun = 1 k’atun (About a generation)

20 k’atun = 1 b’ak’tun (about 394 years)

Dec 21, 2012 marks the end of the 14th b’ak’tun since the beginning of their long count calendar. We have calculated the beginning of their calendar as August 11, 3114 BC. So if we tack on 14 b’ak’tun to that date, we get Dec 21, 2012 (Gregorian). There is nothing more to it than that. There is no special significance to this end of cycle more than any other in their writings.

There were many Mayan calendars. Some counted time in cycles of days, others in cycles of 20 day months. They even combined them for simplicity sake. One such combination resets every 52 years (once in a life-time, for them).

Others cycled every 260 days and still others every 365 days (the Haab). The all had 20 day months (uinal) though.

The Mayans had too darn many calendars…

Yes, and has anyone heard of those missing 11 days in the UK? When we switched calendars - Julian to Gregorian - about 250 years ago. So don't forget to account for those. I think it applies to other countries also. Also, I'm not sure the Mayans had a concept of leap years, so don't forget to include those... All in all, it means the doomsday could be plus or minus maybe a month, if it was actually going to happen.

 

That's what it always cracks up to be.....Mayans had too many calenders....

Each of their calenders worked together. one was like our months and days. Another was religious days, to tell when they would be, kind of like how Easter is decided. The other is like our centuries.

 

Ok Time out..tell me

When did Mayans ruled and where....I need to know

Mesoamerica.

Mesoamerica or Meso-America (Spanish: Mesoamérica) is a region and culture area in the Americas, extending approximately from central Mexico to Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua

 

Ok Time out..tell me

When did Mayans ruled and where....I need to know

They were from around right before the BC/AD time split to around 1500AD' but still around today, just not powerful.

They lived in Mexico and Central America, Belize, Guatemala, and that area.

 

Spain came in and slaughtered the Mayan and Aztecs for their gold/silver.

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization

 

Heck, this guy says the world will end on May 21st of next year (Judgement Day) and says he can prove it, too.
http://www.familyradio.com/index.html
I didn't read through this long thread, so this doomsday prediction may have been already posted.

 

Heck, this guy says the world will end on May 21st of next year (Judgement Day) and says he can prove it, too.
http://www.familyradio.com/index.html
I didn't read through this long thread, so this doomsday prediction may have been already posted.

No, that hasn't been posted. Most of the thread seemed to be a couple of people comparing the merits/truth of different religions.

 

I didn't read through this long thread, so this doomsday prediction may have been already posted.

This has to be close to the longest, if not the longest thread ever on the site