Seems its been postponed until around October 15 now.

http://www.newsweek.com/doomsday-conspiracy-theory-david-meade-apocalypse-october-670253

Or October 21.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/s...t/news-story/1e4417336c5902b4ddbc5b68e6ccf8b2

Not that it matters. So far they are zero for too many to care about now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

Same game different date different reason.

 

One thing that bothered me the most recently is that there is no way to defend against a global EMP, at least not yet.

If the EMP knocks out cell phones, that alone will be the end of the world for many people .

 

If the EMP knocks out cell phones, that alone will be the end of the world for many people .

I could live with that.

I don't have a cell phone so zero looses here.

 

If the EMP knocks out cell phones, that alone will be the end of the world for many people .

The poor people in PR are finding out what it's like after an EMP blast. (Maria's effect on the power and communications grid)

 

The poor people in PR are finding out what it's like after an EMP blast. (Maria's effect on the power and communications grid)

The difference being that power can be restored relatively quickly after a hurricane...

 

The difference being that power can be restored relatively quickly after a hurricane...

Usually, but this will take months for a full restoration of the original blackout prone grid.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...troyed-a-grid-like-maria-ruined-puerto-rico-s

 

Usually, but this will take months for a full restoration of the original blackout prone grid.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...troyed-a-grid-like-maria-ruined-puerto-rico-s

Wow... I knew that PR infrastructure was badly damaged, but I didn't know it was that bad...

 

Usually, but this will take months for a full restoration of the original blackout prone grid.

Rather hoping they take the initiative to rebuild their whole system to use modern practices like putting much it underground where possible.

In the midwest here that's been the standard practice when replacing old overhead lines and now after ~30 years of work the vast majority of all of our rural and small town and city power systems are underground and largely storm proof.

 

Rather hoping they take the initiative to rebuild their whole system to use modern practices like putting much it underground where possible.

In the midwest here that's been the standard practice when replacing old overhead lines and now after ~30 years of work the vast majority of all of our rural and small town and city power systems are underground and largely storm proof.

Well, those guys at the "call before you dig" will have a real challenge in some third world locations if messes kike this are stuffed underground.

 

Rather hoping they take the initiative to rebuild their whole system to use modern practices like putting much it underground where possible.

At 5X the cost (the utility is bankrupt) of overhead poles and lines, the risk of saltwater incursion (that can completely destroy underground power grids) from tropical storm surge/flooding and possible longer reconnect times from this blackout I don't think that will happen.

 

At 5X the cost (the utility is bankrupt) of overhead poles and lines, the risk of saltwater incursion (that can completely destroy underground power grids) from tropical storm surge/flooding and possible longer reconnect times from this blackout I don't think that will happen.

What's right for Sawyer, ND must be right for the rest of the world. Now, when is San Juan going to have that winter coat donation day?

 

Well, those guys at the "call before you dig" will have a real challenge in some third world locations if messes kike this are stuffed underground.

I'm not in a third world location so I and our local 'call before you dig' people can't/don't need to relate to such issues. Plus underground lines would largely solve much of the power theft issue as well.

At 5X the cost (the utility is bankrupt) of overhead poles and lines, the risk of saltwater incursion (that can completely destroy underground power grids) from tropical storm surge/flooding and possible longer reconnect times from this blackout I don't think that will happen.

If they are getting water inside their underground power lines they must be using some pretty poor materials and system designs given that of all the stuff I have seen around here everything is in sealed waterproof systems. That, and many islands have underwater power cables ran between them and their primary power sources so obviously somebody knows how to make them work reliably in salt water locations.

What's right for Sawyer, ND must be right for the rest of the world. Now, when is San Juan going to have that winter coat donation day?

Well if we can afford it out here with literal miles between houses and still have reasonable electric rates why can't everyone else as well? As for the winter coats, that relates to them and their power system rebuild issues how?

 

@tcmtech

Again, your nativity is showing.

Running miles of cable is every utility company's dream. The devil is in the end-of-spool splices, field-repairs and (especially in densely populated areas) service laterals.

 

Plus underground lines would largely solve much of the power theft issue as well.

Why is power theft an "issue" that needs to be solved?

 

If they are getting water inside their underground power lines they must be using some pretty poor materials and system designs given that of all the stuff I have seen around here everything is in sealed waterproof systems. That, and many islands have underwater power cables ran between them and their primary power sources so obviously somebody knows how to make them work reliably in salt water locations.

A total rewire to the consumer would take a decade (maybe several) of work in PR. They already have the overhead wire, the installed and repair infrastructure for overhead power with a critical need to restore power so I don't think that underground power is even on the long list of current restoration requirements. If they had a 30 year old underground grid it would a good bet as to it being just as decrepit as the existing grid from neglect over the years.

https://theconversation.com/should-the-us-put-power-lines-underground-83771

 

https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-New-York-City-have-any-utility-poles-or-telegraph-poles

1888 NYC overhead utilities were rendered inadequate by 21 inch snow storm.

 

@tcmtech

Again, your nativity is showing.

Running miles of cable is every utility company's dream. The devil is in the end-of-spool splices, field-repairs and (especially in densely populated areas) service laterals.

And is that technology not already well developed and understood to the point of being common installation practices everywhere now?

Or are us North Dakotans just that incredibly technologically advanced over the rest of the world that we just take that sort of systems installation, maintenance and operation for granted because most of us have had it in place for 20 - 30+ years already since severe ice storms in the 80's took down a major part of our state's utility systems prompting the change over that now thusly put many of us in the category of having some of the countries most reliable local utility power?

If we nieve nobodies can figure this stuff out and make it cost effective for the customer on a nearing state wide scale what exactly is holding up everyone else?

 

A total rewire to the consumer would take a decade (maybe several) of work in PR. They already have the overhead wire, the installed and repair infrastructure for overhead power with a critical need to restore power so I don't think that underground power is even on the long list of current restoration requirements. If they had a 30 year old underground grid it would a good bet as to it being just as decrepit as the existing grid from neglect over the years.

And as my region did after the massive ice storms of the 80's that gave our local companies justified cause to start installing, so why can't they start with there now? As of lately my local utility is in the process of replacing 30 - 35 year old lines due to lack of capacity since we have had so much additional loads added over the years. If we can swing it for a second time around no less, why can't they start with implementing it now too? According to my local utility guys the new line sets they are installing are expected to have a 50+ year service life.

It's not like it's untested technology these days that has not proven itself to have long term financial savings behind it and that savings doesn't even include the added savings of reducing power theft costs which could be justifiably huge there.

 

Why can't they start?
The world is coming to an end!

 

And speaking of end-of-the-world events and EMPs, I find this a frightening scenario:

... with regards to an EMP event, with commissioners testifying that up to 90 percent of Americans could die within a year of such an attack. All the functions communities rely upon — hospitals, water, waste, transport, telecommunications, air control, medical care — could potentially be decimated for not days or weeks, but months or years.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...ons-over-lapses-in-us-grid-security-rise.html