Your ignorance is showing, even more than before.

7 (usually 5) perfect equally tempered computer generated notes in modern pop music.

And I am well versed in music theory.

I'm complaining about the mechanically oriented production of and lack of creativity in modern pop art, resulting in a class of art in general that is nothing more than cheap (but highly profitable) derivatives of what was produced in the past.

And yes, i know I sound like an angry old carmudgeon.

 

And yes, i know I sound like an angry old carmudgeon.

No accident to that, and I add ignorant as well. More evidence: “perfect” and “equally tampered” are opposite notions. Perfect, in music means small integer ratios, equally tempered means a compromise between the small integer ratios that could define all the notes, but would have them different in each key, and a single set of intervals that sound good in any key. In the equally tempered scale, only the four notes I listed before are perfect:

Unison 1:1
Fourth 4:3
Fifth 3:2
Octave 2:1

And I am well versed in music theory.

So you are purposely making these ridiculous statements?

Who you gonna listen to about music, Jed Clampett or Freddie Mercury?

 

Who you gonna listen to about music, Jed Clampett or Freddie Mercury?

Neither.

They're both dead.

 

Neither.

They're both dead.

Also humor challenged apparently.

Just for kicks, another song I learned recently uses only 10 of the 12 distinct notes in the well tempered scale. But then it is not one known as the epitome of musical innovation.

Spoiler: The song?

“The Ballad of Gilligan’s Isle”

 

You learned the theme to....? Why would one do that? I had the pleasure to visit the site where the pilot was filmed.

 

7 (usually 5) perfect equally tempered computer generated notes in modern pop music.

And I am well versed in music theory.

I'm complaining about the mechanically oriented production of and lack of creativity in modern pop art, resulting in a class of art in general that is nothing more than cheap (but highly profitable) derivatives of what was produced in the past.

And yes, i know I sound like an angry old carmudgeon.

Hi,

Are you talking about the diatonic scale? That's got the 7 notes and then the 8th is the octave. That's the most popular in Western music. Church music is a good example. However, there are not only 7th cords there are also 9th, 11th, 13th, for example, which indicates you need the second octave also in order to play those chords.

As far as music in the most general sense, there are no rules but there are some strong conventions that distinguish actual music from just noise, even though something like noise could be part of a musical piece if it's done right. You can play any notes in sequence, as long as you end with at least one of the right notes which makes it fit. That's more toward jazz, but there are even disagreements there too where different musicians hold themselves to different standards.

One of the things I got into a while back is dissonance. If it is done right, it can be very interesting. For example, two notes one interval apart played at the same time.
What happens after you play an instrument and listen to music for such a long time, repeated scales in various musical pieces gets boring so it becomes a search for something not so boring. As it turns out, almost anything can become interesting. To most people, it depends highly on what they have already heard in the past. If they hear something new, it may sound wrong to them even though to many other people it may sound really good and very insightful.

Is there even really a good definition of Music without getting too abstract.

 

Yes and no.

At the end of the day, it is not the writer's goal to actually write something good (in the sense of a story with reasonable and plausible plot elements that are entirely self-consistent). It is their goal to write something that will be a commercial success. Unfortunately, these two goals are not at all aligned and, in many respects, are mutually exclusive.

I sat next to an independent film producer on a flight one time and we had a very interesting discussion about this. It started with my asking her why editors can't seem to ever grasp the notion that someone can't stand there and fire a dozen or more shots using a six-shot revolver with the camera never leaving them. It just seemed like such a glaring and oft-seen goof that it should be on a laundry list of things that an editor is looking for when putting a film together. Particularly after all the time they pat themselves on the back about all the minutia they go out of there way to make sure that some broach that someone is wearing is always in the same place on the heroine's dress in a scene that was filmed over a period of several days (I forget which movie that was for when I was watching the "making of" special feature on the DVD), but in that same scene the same heroine fired a dozen shots from a revolver that you could clearly see had a six-round cylinder.

She said that, by-and-large, audiences simply don't notice and don't care and editors know this, so they aren't going to spend time (and money) addressing it. I also asked her about why movies and TV shows continue to use the same over-used gimmicks that are completely absurd. The example I used was the "image enhancement" trope where they take a blurry image of a moving car taken from a low-resolution camera in an ATM machine and are able to digitally enhance the picture to clearly show the fine print on some decal sticker on the windshield. She pointed out something that I hadn't thought of at the time, but that has become glaringly apparent in the last couple of decades. She said that most people's notions of reality are shaped by what they've seen portrayed on film, regardless of how accurate it might or might not be, and that a film that portrays something that goes against their expectations, no matter how rigorously accurate it might be, will be rejected as being completely unrealistic by a huge fraction of the audience. Examples include not only near-infinite ability to enhance photos, but things like people being blown completely off there feet when they get shot by a large-caliber handgun, or the bomb always having a countdown timer that is disabled by cutting the red wire three seconds before zero (and that freezes the still working display at three seconds), or the gravely wounded hero being chased by a car down a street, screeching it's tires and revving it's engine and shifting gears, despite most people not being able to run faster than six to ten miles/hr even if they are in pretty good shape. This list goes on and on and on. It wasn't too long after this flight that I first heard about a growing problems with juries not being willing to convict defendants because the forensic evidence didn't meet the level of certitude and sophistication that they routinely see in CSI and similar shows.

One of things you mentioned is one that I see over and over -- the good guy/gal manages to overcome the killer that has just attacked them and they just walk away so that, very predictably, the same killer gets to attack them again. They usually never bother to take their gun, even though they themselves are unarmed and know that they are still being pursued by a bunch of other killers.

Here's a pretty good synopsis of a lot of these over-used gimmicks.

Peter's Evil Overlord List

Another aspect that, for me personally, makes it hard to watch what many consider to be the "really clever" shows is how in most of them the main character is only clever enough to find the subtle clue because the person that wrote the script wrote it that way. I get so tired of some obscure clue, like a picture on the wall being at a slight angle when all of the other pictures appear straight) leading the hero down some impeccable chain of reasoning that unerringly unravels the entire mystery, especially when there are clearly completely mundane and much more likely explanations for whatever the clue is (like someone bumped the damn picture).

Hi,

Yes, and that last paragraph really hits home. "The sky is blue and you can see stars in the sky at night, so he must be the murderer", ha ha.

The worst I can think of at the moment is the shark that can growl underwater (this is so nutty I am not sure if I can laugh or puke). It may have been the one with 3 heads or maybe the one with 6 heads. Ha!
And it is so nice to see that when a 40 foot shark with multiple heads starts to eat the girlfriend, the boyfriend jumps in the water to help her! Maybe he missed the sign on the beach:
"Please don't feed the sharks"

 

You learned the theme to....? Why would one do that? I had the pleasure to visit the site where the pilot was filmed.

It was in the course I am following (Alfred’s Adult Piano). My teacher and the lovely wife Morticia had the same reaction you did. I kind of like it. I actually got the real score and went beyond what the book did, including the 2 key changes for dramatic effect, but I refuse to play the idiotic addendum that introduces the characters, which is rather unmusical.

 

Getting back to topic:

‘Defectively designed’ Cybertruck burned so hot in crash that the driver’s bones literally disintegrated: lawsuit

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Michael Sheehan, 47, "burned to death at 5,000°F – a fire so hot his bones experienced thermal fracture," according to a gut-wrenching lawsuit his widow and parents have now filed against the electric auto manufacturer headed up by billionaire Elon Musk.

 

Getting back to topic:

‘Defectively designed’ Cybertruck burned so hot in crash that the driver’s bones literally disintegrated: lawsuit
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Any settlement should be discounted the price of a good cremation.

 

Getting back to topic:

‘Defectively designed’ Cybertruck burned so hot in crash that the driver’s bones literally disintegrated: lawsuit
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Wow that's really nasty. Something has to be done about this sort of failure.

 

Wow that's really nasty. Something has to be done about this sort of failure.

The industry is working quite hard at this point to manufacture safer batteries. Among the technologies being researched are batteries with an integrated fire-suppression system, solid state batteries, and batteries with non-flammable electrolytes, among others.

 

The industry is working quite hard at this point to manufacture safer batteries. Among the technologies being researched are batteries with an integrated fire-suppression system, solid state batteries, and batteries with non-flammable electrolytes, among others.

And it's not all vaporware. I follow solid state batteries and at least one company has a product that can be manufactured at scale and has prototypes in the hands of OEM car makers. That particular company may not win the race but I'm certain solid-state will be commercial very soon.

 

China’s tech giant claims 1,800-mile range for solid-state EV battery, files patent

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Huawei’s patent application reveals that its battery uses a method of doping sulfide electrolytes with nitrogen to reduce side reactions at the lithium interface. However, beyond this detail, the company is keeping most of its technology under wraps as competition intensifies to safely mass-produce solid-state batteries.

 

The solid-state battery company I have in stock in will be worth next zero if that's true! But the Chinese are notorious for announcing technology that's not exactly in hand yet. It's meant to demoralize and deter competitors. In this case the lack of details might ensure the patent never issues, but that's OK because the deterrence goal has already been achieved.

 

Almost?

 

But the Chinese are notorious for announcing technology that's not exactly in hand yet.

Or, even better, announcing NEW! RECORD BREAKING! CUTTING EDGE! technology that was patented in the US Patent Office over 50 years ago... I guess that's better than being hung (or having their organs harvested) for unproductiveness and bringing shame to their communist party by their lack of ingenuity and creativity. The ones in charge and those generating their propaganda are too stupid/uneducated to realize it's already been done and that we have moved on to bigger and more difficult problems to solve. Kinda reminiscent of the poor African villager that builds the helicopter that is incapable of flying. But it sure LOOKS and possibly sounds somewhat like a helicopter.

 

If it looks like a helicopter, sounds like a helicopter, and smells like a helicopter, then it probably crashes like a helicopter