New Batteries For EV's

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MrAl

Joined Jun 17, 2014
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Then explain it to me.
It's not hard to understand. It's just an atomically layered material and they exhibit properties that regular composite materials cannot.
Now the question is can we believe it, and if so how long will it take to get here. 5 years, 10 years, 100 years, etc.
The cost will also enter into that as usual, and then there is always politics which seeks to control everything including, but not limited to, the Sun :) Can the guy keep his job? If so, then it's in, if not, it's out.
 

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MrAl

Joined Jun 17, 2014
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How dare you being skeptical of a piece of news found on the internet!

:p
Yeah, I am such a bad boy when it comes to these matters :)

That's from reading too many "catch ya" titles that turn out to be a bunch of "maybes" or "could be someday".

I have a feeling this kind of pseudo advertising came from people watching too many episodes of Ancient Aliens, then thinking they could use that same quasi-factual mumbo jumbo to get attention also.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.straitstimes.com/world/...-battery-plant-20-bodies-found-yonhap-reports
South Korea battery plant fire kills 22 people, most of them Chinese, officials say

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aricell_battery_factory_fire
Casualties
Eighteen Chinese workers, two South Koreans and one Laotian were among the dead, according to the Hwaseong fire service. Gyeonggi province fire official Cho Sun-ho reported that most of the workers were temporary hires who likely were not familiar to the structure of the building. He claimed that the workers were killed by smoke inhalation instead of from burn injuries due to the fire starting on the second floor of the warehouse, with the workers likely succumbing within 15 seconds of the fire spreading to their location after taking one to two breaths due to the toxicity of the smoke generated by the batteries. Due to the intensity of the fire, it was difficult to immediately identify the identities of the deceased.[1] Missing people were discovered by using their mobile phone signals to geolocate them to the second floor of the factory. Officials noted that the deceased workers were likely unable to escape using stairs to the ground.[4]

In addition, eight people were injured, with two suffering second-degree burns. One person was still missing.[3]
Nasty.
 

nsaspook

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I suggest that EVs have already killed more humans than CAGW ever will.
I've long said that as we increase battery energy densities (or energy storage devices using room-temperature superconductivity) we are also creating defacto compact explosive/deadly devices.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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A chart like that is 'not even wrong'. :rolleyes:

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/...vidence-against-climate-emergency-2023-09-19/
Fact Check: Drop in climate-related disaster deaths not evidence against climate ‘emergency’
The bar graph circulating online first appeared in a newsletter, opens new tab by climate change sceptic Bjorn Lomborg in response to the UN’s, opens new tab 2022 “Global Assessment Report on Disaster Risk Reduction”.
VERDICT
Misleading. Disaster mortality is not a useful metric for quantifying climate change, and climate-related disasters have increased in number, intensity, and economic cost.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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"climate-related disasters have increased in number, intensity, and economic cost."

Prove it re CAGW.
Nope, the deniers need to stop using bogus numbers and pseudofacts in lame attempts to disprove or to imply, even if it's happening, it won't matter.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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These "deniers"?

Ad hominems are completely unpersuasive to me.
I only call them as I see them and you really don't need to look very hard.

This is not a binary situation. There is wide spectrum that includes those seeing how obvious man-made climate changes is and also seeing how obvious some are using it to push a IMO anti-capitalist, fear mongering, end of the world if we don't act today, BS agenda.
 
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