I recently read an article proposing the universe's missing mass might be some exotic dark fluid with negative mass. That lead me to wonder what if the missing mass is hidden right under our nose. What if the masses of well known particles (electrons, protons, neutrons, photons) are actually SUMS of positive and negative mass, tipping to the positive side of the scale (at least in OUR neighborhood)?

I'm still trying to process how negative mass would behave vis a vis F=ma and gravitational forces etc.

 

https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.07962

I'm thinking the universe's missing mass is more likely to be the positive mass from unicorn tears than actual 'real' negative mass.

 

If mass can be negative, perhaps it can be imaginary as well. Maybe the universe really is that complex.

 

If mass can be negative, perhaps it can be imaginary as well. Maybe the universe really is that complex.

Or maybe the theoretical mathematical structures for negative mass, dark energy, dark matter are non-physical. They are just place-holders for missing knowledge about the true structure of the universe. With that, we explain everything without unicorns.

 

Negative mass would create a negative gravity. Useful in hyperspace engines. Not practical because nothing with mass could control it

 

Nature does not have positive and negative mass. It has left handed and right handed mass.

Handedness IS a fundamental property.....gravity IS not. Modern science does not know this.

This is why science has not a clue of what matter OR gravity IS.

To this very day....not a clue.

 

Nature does not have positive and negative mass. It has left handed and right handed mass.

Handedness IS a fundamental property.....gravity IS not. Modern science does not know this.

This is why science has not a clue of what matter OR gravity IS.

To this very day....not a clue.

So, far experiments have not shown Nature to be Left and Right, more so to be exclusively Left handedness, however they continue to search.

Do you have a URL of experiments for proof, or just Mathematical theory?

https://phys.org/news/2018-05-nature-exclusively-left-chilled-atoms.html

Scientists produced a pure sample of atoms, which decayed, and then more precisely measured the beta particle spin than was done in the past. They found no right-handed particles, strengthening the claim that nature is left-handed and providing researchers with a technique for improved searches for right-handed particles as well as tests of other aspects of the standard model.

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From an early age I was aware of the existence and the properties of dark matter – and where it can be found.

Often while listing to a radio commentary of a football (soccer) match, or watching on TV – almost invariably whenever a player scored with a powerful shot, the commentator would announce that the ball had ‘accelerated towards the back of the net.’

Knowing that once the ball had been kicked, no further energy was imparted to the ball – the only logical explanation for this acceleration was some form of dark matter located behind the goal.
It also explains why fans congregate behind each goal – held by the gravitational force of the dark matter.

 

In customary physics, mass is considered a "scalar" quantity (represented by just a pure number) instead of a vector which is a number, but that quantity also has an accompanying direction in space.

From just a philosophical viewpoint, negative mass implies a void which could be filled exactly by the same quantity of normal mass, but with zero net change in mass or volume.

 

No I can not give you any references or URLs. Our modern science is very ignorant of the fundamentals.

They believe that MATH is the fundamental.

Most are never taught the zenith of classical physics. That would be Parson's Magneton(1917) before the neutron was verified. At the time...it was hailed as the greatest explanation for our physical world. The under pinning combined Gauss, Ampere, and Weber. Weber physically and mathematically explained relativist effects 50 years before Einstein. Relativity did not come from math. It was discovered by Weber's experiments. It's just an effect of duration and angle.......nothing more......no magic. Space does not bellow.

A beta particle is just another name for an electron. It is contracted to a smaller and denser area(more massive) then a regular electron. But it's an electron. It's lefthanded.

A positron is just a proton than has been relaxed or expanded from it's regular volume.(it had to release a lot of energy to expand) They are right handed. A neutron is right handed too. It has the right handedness of a proton -(minus) the left handedness of an electron. It's a frozen or over dampened dipole.(a proton inside an electron) This dampened condition has to be reinforced. Outside a nucleus.....the neutron flies apart in about eleven minutes.

It's easy to test for handedness. Two common ways. We can accelerate the unknown charge and measure the dipole direction. Or we can shoot the unknown charge into a magnetic field and note direction. And if you understood the handedness of charge.......just rotate the charge......and one can determine handedness. But most people will not except that simple test.

Charge are normally one way devices. Meaning the structure has a front end and a back end. Front porch-back porch. Another property of handedness. Making a charge accelerate backwards.....gives you anti-matter. It does not happen often. And is not a normal situation. There is no missing matter. Never has been.

If you would like an up-to-date review of classical physics........startpage search "magneton theory". Then look for common sense. There is a classical physical model that replaces the standard math model of an atom. I have tried to post the links for mathematical proofs, but there are deleted as being crackpot. So classical physics is even crackpot now. But if you hunt you will find it.

There are so many alternative(insane or wishful) internet theories.......that all are lumped together now.

I need a model with firm physical dynamics that can explain and faithfully satisfy all the properties at the same time. This works for me. A theory that explains all the properties so closely related together is most intriguing. A particle has two dynamic radii and two rotations that vary. All particle properties change in proper proportion with this model. One can really chew on it.

True cud.

 

by considering general regulations that rule over phenomenas in the world, like "duality",we can conclude there must be somthing by a negative mass or anti matter or something in dual with a normal mass.

 

No I can not give you any references or URLs. Our modern science is very ignorant of the fundamentals.

They believe that MATH is the fundamental.

Most are never taught the zenith of classical physics. That would be Parson's Magneton(1917) before the neutron was verified. At the time...it was hailed as the greatest explanation for our physical world. The under pinning combined Gauss, Ampere, and Weber. Weber physically and mathematically explained relativist effects 50 years before Einstein. Relativity did not come from math. It was discovered by Weber's experiments. It's just an effect of duration and angle.......nothing more......no magic. Space does not bellow.

A beta particle is just another name for an electron. It is contracted to a smaller and denser area(more massive) then a regular electron. But it's an electron. It's lefthanded.

A positron is just a proton than has been relaxed or expanded from it's regular volume.(it had to release a lot of energy to expand) They are right handed. A neutron is right handed too. It has the right handedness of a proton -(minus) the left handedness of an electron. It's a frozen or over dampened dipole.(a proton inside an electron) This dampened condition has to be reinforced. Outside a nucleus.....the neutron flies apart in about eleven minutes.

It's easy to test for handedness. Two common ways. We can accelerate the unknown charge and measure the dipole direction. Or we can shoot the unknown charge into a magnetic field and note direction. And if you understood the handedness of charge.......just rotate the charge......and one can determine handedness. But most people will not except that simple test.

Charge are normally one way devices. Meaning the structure has a front end and a back end. Front porch-back porch. Another property of handedness. Making a charge accelerate backwards.....gives you anti-matter. It does not happen often. And is not a normal situation. There is no missing matter. Never has been.

If you would like an up-to-date review of classical physics........startpage search "magneton theory". Then look for common sense. There is a classical physical model that replaces the standard math model of an atom. I have tried to post the links for mathematical proofs, but there are deleted as being crackpot. So classical physics is even crackpot now. But if you hunt you will find it.

There are so many alternative(insane or wishful) internet theories.......that all are lumped together now.

I need a model with firm physical dynamics that can explain and faithfully satisfy all the properties at the same time. This works for me. A theory that explains all the properties so closely related together is most intriguing. A particle has two dynamic radii and two rotations that vary. All particle properties change in proper proportion with this model. One can really chew on it.

True cud.

Not enough cud for you? Sometimes it's time to swallow and take another bite.

kv

 

More likely you're having a crackpot moment.

 

More likely you're having a crackpot moment.

maybe the same as assumptions used in electromagnetic science,by considering a virtual mass along with the real mass...
even it could be placed in infinity.

 

maybe the same as assumptions used in electromagnetic science,by considering a virtual mass along with the real mass...
even it could be placed in infinity.

These are mathematical constructs to simplify or solve calculations like a virtual image antenna reflection from a ground plane , hole flow in semiconductors or virtual particles in QM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_antenna

They don't actually exist (or in the case of Negative Mass would be extremely problematical if it existed) but do help to provide simplified models for the complex processes we do understand.
http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2018/12/no-negative-masses-have-not.html

In his paper, Farnes has a go at cosmology with negative gravitational masses. He wants these masses further to also have negative inertial masses, so that the equivalence principle is maintained. It’s a nice idea. I, as I am sure many other people in the field, have toyed with it. Problem is, it works really badly.

There’s a more general point to be made here. The primary reason that we use dark matter and dark energy to explain cosmological observations is that they are simple. Occam’s razor vetoes any explanation you can come up with that is more complicated than that, and Farnes’ approach certainly is not a simple explanation. Furthermore, while it is okay to introduce negative gravitational masses, it’s highly problematic to introduce negative inertial masses because this means the vacuum becomes unstable. If you do this, you can produce particle pairs from a net energy of zero in infinitely large amounts. This fits badly with our observations.