My old data book collection

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RichardO

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Just found an old IC - 24 pin ceramic with gold leads and the wide 0.6in form. Have searched the web but could find almost nothing about EA - let alone this chip. I do see that Apple used some EA chips in their computers at one time.

EA 4004
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Hoping that one of your old data books goes back to 1976 to describe this one.
I think they were memory chips made by Electronic Arrays. I think they also made memory boards with their own chips on them.

I don't think I have any EA data books but I will look.
 

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RichardO

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Oh wait - that formatted page helps a lot- character generator... hmmm

Any idea on where a data sheet might live? That may be a fun project.

And thank you very much!
So much for my guess that they were memory chips. :rolleyes:

The old Apple][ schematics might help by showing the pinout. I think I have seen the schematics on-line.
 
`The 4004 is an early Intel microprocessor too. It was used in calculators. It pre-dated the Intel 8008.

FWIW:

I bought an old RS232 terminal surplus, that came with a band printer as well. It was all TTL, no microprocessor at all. I probably have the schematics. In any event, I changed the character generator, dead bug style, so it could display lower case characters. I think it could input lower case characters. So, that was fun.
 

danadak

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I have a number of databooks late 1969 going forward. Fairchild, NSC,
Signetics, Siliconix, AD, Mot.....

Even National MOS databook, primarily PMOS, shift registers used as memory
prior to 1101 DRAM.

In school 1972 I wrote a letter to Motorola, identifying myself as a student, and
asked for every ap note ever published. Got two large boxes, ~ 200 ap
notes, 8.5 x 11 format.

I have thought about ebay selling but really prefer contributing to an organization
for the profession. For shared knowledge.

Is here any organized funded effort out here ?

Regards, Dana.
 
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Hi everyone
On this link on Ebay: https://www.ebay.it/p/TMS1000-Integrated-Circuit-Case-Dip28-Make-Kbi/1293721847

Part # TMS 1000 and it is manufactured by KBI ???

Would like to find the data sheet for this chip, can anyone help.

Done lots of searching, no success. Possibly a Kingstate ?? but cannot find it.

Could be a 'copy' of a Texas Instruments ic.

Ebay supplier unable to help with datasheet.

The Texas Instruments same part # were always marked and had a masked program number on.
Thankyou

Charles Harris
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bertus

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Hi Bertus
Thanks for great info on the PDFs.

On Ebay list mostly the same seller who has nothing.

Normally they came with a masked program on the chip. The Ebay ones maybe without mask, only useful if they could be programmed

Regards
Charles
 

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RichardO

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Some masked ROM microcontrollers of that era could have the internal ROM disabled. You could then attach external memory for debugging. This, of course, makes the port pins unavailable. Some manufacturers had port replacement chips to let you get the port pins back.


The program in a masked ROM cannot be changed. The program is part of the manufacturing process.
 
All my old data books (70's-90's) have been burned...The only one I saved is the diode data book from Motorola. My experience is that many IC's are no longer manufactured (lack of demand). And even if you were to find some old stock, the prices are outrageous. The same thing happened with old auto parts...and will continue to happen. Modern electronics are largely un-repairable and have a useful life of only 7 years (or less). PLA's have largely replaced specific function IC's.
(UL data and law of the squares).
 
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ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
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All my old data books (70's-90's) have been burned...The only one I saved is the diode data book from Motorola. My experience is that many IC's are no longer manufactured (lack of demand). And even if you were to find some old stock, the prices are outrageous. The same thing happened with old auto parts...and will continue to happen. Modern electronics are largely un-repairable and have a useful life of only 7 years,
(UL data and law of the squares).
My interest would be servicing legacy equipment - but PDfs take up a lot less space.
 

rrash283

Joined Jul 31, 2018
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I've been searching every where for information on an old serial communication IC HD43370. It was most likely manufactured by Hitachi. I would greatly appreciate it if someone were able to provide any help.

Respectfully,
Richard
 

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RichardO

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I've been searching every where for information on an old serial communication IC HD43370. It was most likely manufactured by Hitachi. I would greatly appreciate it if someone were able to provide any help.

Respectfully,
Richard
Is this a digital part like a UART or something else?

I will look in my data books collection within the next few days. I forgot to do it last night. :(
 

rrash283

Joined Jul 31, 2018
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Is this a digital part like a UART or something else?

I will look in my data books collection within the next few days. I forgot to do it last night. :(
It is a serializer/deserializer. It's used in some obsolete equipment I have for remote communications. It's used in both the transmitters and recievers. After staring at enough wave forms to make my head hurt I finally realized it is using alternate mark inversion.
 
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