More chinese fakes

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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My compressor --- At 120VAC, 3.25 Amperes count as 1 horsepower (or dogpower?) for the f*%$#n chinese.
Can't blame the Chinese for this one, as this specsmanship game far predates the Chinese flooding our markets with fraudulent crap. Even back in high school the compressors you saw at hardware stores had ridiculous claims on them. The most absurd one I ever saw (though worse existed) was a Campbell Hausfeld compressor, run off of a 115 VAC, 15 A residential circuit, that proudly claimed across the tank 8 HP. If you bent over and looked at the nameplate on the motor, you saw that it was a 3/4 HP motor. I paid attention because my dad worked his entire career for an air compressor manufacturer/distributor.

This was known as "marketing horsepower" (a double entendre, to my way of thinking) and, like the "peak music power" that was thrown about in audio equipment, relied on meaningless and utterly contrived measurement scenarios.
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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HP = (V*A*(%Efficiency))/746Watts
So (120*13*.8)/746 = 1.67HP @ 80% efficiency which is about standard for 120VAC
Yeah, it's a wee bit stretched to get to 4HP... But hey, in china they go by the "if you can, CHEAT" admonition even in advertising!

In fact, even today, I saw an article from china where they have discovered and developed a substitute for copper wire that is even better and almost free... Hope it works out better for them than their concrete...
 
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_1654

Failure to diligently assess risks

AliExpress fell short of its obligation under the DSA to diligently assess the risk of dissemination of illegal, unsafe, or counterfeit products through its services in multiple ways:

  • AliExpress did not properly evaluate whether it had sufficient staff to review potentially illegal products. The company overestimated the effectiveness of its system in detecting and removing illegal products. Therefore, AliExpress failed to realistically take into account the disproportion between the number of human moderators and their workload.
  • AliExpress inadequately assessed how its recommender and advertising systems exacerbate the spread of illegal products. Testing by the Commission's services showed that many illegal products were recommended or advertised to consumers before they were effectively removed.
  • AliExpress lacked quantitative metrics in its assessment. AliExpress relied only on one quantitative indicator, that, however, did not properly measure how well its moderation system prevented the risk of illegal products appearing or reappearing in similar forms. This finding is also supported by testing by the Commission's services, which showed that a high volume of illegal products continued to circulate despite AliExpress' moderation efforts.
Failure to mitigate identified systemic risks

AliExpress failed to take effective measures to reduce the risk of dissemination of illegal products. The Commission identified, in particular, the following shortcomings:

  • AliExpress' system to detect illegal products did not work properly. Many illegal products, from counterfeit products to unsafe toys and dangerous cosmetics, circulated on the platform and, even if detected, remained online for multiple weeks.
  • AliExpress did not properly enforce its penalty policy for traders selling illegal products. The penalty policy was not adequately implemented and stores selling illegal products were able to remain active on AliExpress, despite being penalised.
  • AliExpress' product compliance checks could be easily circumvented through mis-categorisation of products. AliExpress allocated insufficient staff to verify whether products are correctly categorised, and the controls put in place failed to detect the mis-categorised products before publication. Therefore, malicious traders intentionally placed products in the wrong category to benefit from more flexible requirements, allowing non-compliant products to circulate freely on the platform.
  • AliExpress failed to adequately prevent the spread of counterfeit products. Counterfeit products represent a significant risk on AliExpress. In addition to potential consequences for consumers' rights, sellers of such products undercut legitimate businesses that invest in design, safety testing, and innovation, forcing them to compete with products that bypass these investments. AliExpress' mandatory ‘brand authorisation' system – intended to prevent counterfeit sales – proved ineffective and understaffed. Therefore, traders easily bypassed this system and published many products that were only later removed for being counterfeit.
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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AliX has also recently changed its refund policy. Now the customer MUST return the item (usually at the customer's expense) to the vendor (once you actually can determine their real address). The VENDOR will then determine the validity of the return and issue the refund IF they chose to. Which means that if the refund is NOT granted what then happens to the returned items?!?! I mean really, the vendor sent you junk goods and now it is up to them to determine whether what they sent you is junk!?! Unbelievable! Especially since now you can buy the exact same item on Amazon for nearly the same price and get unquestionable customer support! Their days are numbered...
 

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Externet

Joined Nov 29, 2005
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The numbered days got to DealExtreme about 4 years ago, a previous oriental similar mail-order merchant, with good performance that fell on trouble.
Still alive; dhgate, banggood, miniinthebox, geekbuying, chinavasion, sunsky, tvcmall
 
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