Isolated 150mW AC-to-DC regulator?

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johnyradio

Joined Oct 26, 2012
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Yes, Mike, that's why I'm keeping this discussion in this thread, including discussion of a three amp version. It's still the same schematic.

Thanks!
 

MisterBill2

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One more thing, after looking at the requirements. johnyradio said:

  • Supply: AC 100 kHz, 10V
  • Output: DC 5V @ 30 mA, isolated, continuous
  • Footprint: L 10mm x W 10mm x H 5mm
  • Budget: $1 (preferably $0.50)

Actually, two more things: No statement as to the regulation or stability!
Second thing: That price target says that it is for production in a product sold for profit. That means "commercial rates apply" because this is not a hobby type project, nor an experimenter thing, nor a "maker" venturing into a new realm.
 

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johnyradio

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No statement as to the regulation or stability!
Regulation came up earlier in the conversation, and I asked what the sources of instability would be. I suggest
  • Variation in the supply. I'm confident there won't be variation in the supply, simply because I control the supply so I can make sure it's stable.
  • changes in load: Will load affect capacitance or regulation? I can ensure that my load never exceeds max current.
  • changes in temperature: How will temperature affect capacitance of a capacitor, behavior of the bridge rectifier, or regulation?
not a hobby type project, nor an experimenter thing, nor a "maker" venturing into a new realm.
How does that affect circuit behavior or requirements?
 
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MisterBill2

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That is a fair question: " How does that affect circuit behavior or requirements? " It does not affect the circuit behavior or the requirements. Post #63 provides the details.
 

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johnyradio

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That is a fair question: " How does that affect circuit behavior or requirements? " It does not affect the circuit behavior or the requirements. Post #63 provides the details.
You said "commercial rates apply". BOM cost goes down with volume. I'm not counting manufacturing cost in my target BOM cost.
 

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johnyradio

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the price target says that it is for production in a product sold for profit.
Target price may suggest that it is for a product sold for profit, but not exactly. It's to raise revenue, but not for profit. All revenue will benefit a nonprofit electronics mentoring project, for disadvantaged teenagers. So it's a plus that BOM cost goes down with volume. We taught underprivileged teens in a dangerous neighborhood how to build boomboxes for 3 yrs. Now i'm developing our new boombox electronics. I'm grateful for everyone's electronics advice.
 
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johnyradio

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  • Unipolar on primary: Can we achieve galvanic isolation with a unipolar square wave source, to enable half-bridge instead of full-bridge rectifier? Would it still require 2 input caps? Could we make the square wave pulsewidth asymmetrical to increase the on-time of the voltage?
  • Unipolar on secondary: Or convert it to unipolar on the secondary?
  • Bipolar: With a bipolar square, can we obtain a center-tap with cap-iso, to enable half-bridge instead of fullbridge rectifier? Ideas for a center tap:

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johnyradio

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@crutschow Is this circuit bipolar transparent? I mean, will the AC voltage and current on the secondary be the same as the voltage in current on the primary?

For example if the input is a unipolar positive only square wave, then will the output should be the same unipolar positive only square wave? If the input is a bipolar sine wave, then will the output should be the same bipolar sine wave.

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