Does it matter.
Max.

I don't care as long as you can change the water in the pond out back into Crown Royal and then bi-weekly gin, tequila, brandy, rum etc.

kv

Edit: And only the good stuff please.

 

When you consider that the average worker is in debt way over his/her head and is compelled to go to work for rapidly diminishing wages just to put food on the table and shelter over his/her family's heads, I call that slavery.

Very true. It's like a newer more sophisticated version of slavery.

 

Very true. It's like a newer more sophisticated version of slavery.

Exactly, which is what fiat money really means.

 

On a positive note, slavery is at an all-time low.

You should check Google on that. It's alive and well in the 21st century , just not talked about in the open and they don't hold auctions in the town square anymore. https://www.google.com/search?q=sex+slave&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

 

You should check Google on that. It's alive and well in the 21st century , just not talked about in the open and they don't hold auctions in the town square anymore. https://www.google.com/search?q=sex+slave&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Okay fine dammit. Between you and mr. Chips there's no room for a glimmer of hope around here is there?

 

I don't care as long as you can change the water in the pond out back into Crown Royal and then bi-weekly gin, tequila, brandy, rum etc.

kv

Edit: And only the good stuff please.

Give me a break
I haven't got that far, just good beer so far!!
Max.

 

True story. You remember our PMs about your religion? I just went back in time to find them. 31OCT2011! That was a long time ago; I did not think it was so long ago.

@strantor

Are you aware of 31 OCT = 25 DEC?

Digression? Sure, but I could not resist.

 

Give me a break
I haven't got that far, just good beer so far!!
Max.

You'll find me very patient, and they say if I have enough faith you don't even have to come to town.

kv

Edit: Plus, I enjoy a good beer now and then.

 

There were only "x" number of 'souls' present at the beginnings of human life. Reincarnation just kept 'recycling' those original 'souls'.

My version is that living souls are a particle of the nature of things, like everybody gets a "God" particle because God is not divided by the creation of a living soul, only enhanced.

Grateful you can tell the difference between "my theory" and, "arguing with you".

@strantor This Thread is romping along beautifully and I don't have enough, "likes" to do it justice.

 

@strantor This Thread is romping along beautifully and I don't have enough, "likes" to do it justice.

I know right? I'm very impressed with our ability to discuss this with a level head. When I was pleading my case to the mods I told them I had high hopes for us not to descend into a mosh pit, but I wasn't entirely convinced myself. I'm really happy with the way that it's turned out so far.

Thank you everybody!

 

some evil things are crimes they don't always need to be.

"Evil" and "crime" are two different worlds. The first is moral and the second is political.
Putting both of them in one sentence calls for an argument which I will not engage because it's so Off Topic.

 

Glastonbury is not far from where I grew up and my DNA results show I am 1% Jewish!

I was not aware being jewish carried a definable genetic marker like having say neanderthal ancestry does.

http://www.jewfaq.org/judaism.htm

Vs

https://www.google.com/search?q=nea...2.69i57j0l5.4225j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

You should check Google on that. It's alive and well in the 21st century , just not talked about in the open and they don't hold auctions in the town square anymore. https://www.google.com/search?q=sex+slave&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

what are job fares then? Last year Alberta collapsed, BC started site C and everyone applied to build the dam. People are treated like disposable goods - the latest is Sears in Canada, no severance for workers because bonuses must be paid to top management who will be leading the company at the time of restructuring. The very team that drove it into the ground in the first place...

 

When you consider that the average worker is in debt way over his/her head and is compelled to go to work for rapidly diminishing wages just to put food on the table and shelter over his/her family's heads, I call that slavery.

But people have the option to go into and can work their way out of such a lifestyle given the many options they have to work with to end such a self imposed life style where as being a slave isn't as such.

Self inflicted debt and choice of lifestyle is not slavery. It's just bad planning, and too often basic stupidity towards one's own life choices perpetrated by one's own ignorance of the many options they do have to get out of such self inflicted problems.

 

I know right? I'm very impressed with our ability to discuss this with a level head. When I was pleading my case to the mods I told them I had high hopes for us not to descend into a mosh pit, but I wasn't entirely convinced myself. I'm really happy with the way that it's turned out so far.

Thank you everybody!

You mean we're stopping here??? Let's start a revolution, man!!!

 

Did you miss my last two sentences? "The unprovable 'soul' is what keeps us from being 'evil'. Again just my take on this." Very little in this whole thread is 'provable'. That said there is no evidence that both are not provable either. Thought the purpose of this thread was expression of what we think?

I know it's just your take on this but my question is; how did you arrive at those conclusions?

So, what exactly is the unprovable 'soul' and how did you detect it?

 

You mean we're stopping here??? Let's start a revolution, man!!!

No way, it's not over. Just a high-five for making it out of the gate with no explosions.

 

Very true. It's like a newer more sophisticated version of slavery.

But unlike with true slavery anyone who is in the system typically put themselves there and they have the full capacity to get themselves out.

It's the concept of, you owning your stuff and not your stuff owning you, that is the key to where a person resides in things.

I for one have much stuff but it is all paid for and takes very little work on my part to keep being what work I do accomplish with it pays far more in returns than its cost of ownership does. I don't work for it, it works for me. A concept far too many do not understand and thusly own so much at such a cost they can not afford to not work if they want to keep it.

Thusly they are not slaves to anyone but themselves and their stuff. Who they have to work for and to what extent to keep what they have is not a factor in may part of it as in how real slavery is.

 

But people have the option to go into and can work their way out of such a lifestyle given the many options they have to work with to end such a self imposed life style where as being a slave isn't as such.

Self inflicted debt and choice of lifestyle is not slavery. It's just bad planning, and too often basic stupidity towards one's own life choices perpetrated by one's own ignorance of the many options they do have to get out of such self inflicted problems.

I also agree with this to an extent. If you don't want to be a slave to debt, you do have the option to live a very minimalist lifestyle and avoid it. But let's say you want to save up your earnings to one day buy a house... It's a moving target that gets harder and harder when you're competing against people leveraging the power of debt slavery. By the time you save up $100k for that shanty by the wastewater treatment plant, it will probably be worth $150k and there will be a line of people with blank bank checks fighting over it.

 

I was not aware being jewish carried a definable genetic marker

But why not?
....But as I mentioned before I did have long hair and was good at wood work.
Max.