How's the weather?

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Gee I always thought most of the bodies were just buried in the desert outside of Vegas.
"That's one body that'll never be found
You see little sister don't miss when she aims her gun"

I figure Hoffa is under the goal post in some stadium. :)

Ron
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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About as accurate as some of our forecast. Last week several miles up from us along the lake shore 6" or more of snow. Our yard nothing. Cleveland, Ohio is a hard place to call. :)

Ron
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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Snow! Snow like I haven't seen in 15 years. This past four days we got just a little over a foot. In the past five years total, we haven't had more than 10 inches combined. And yes, we're in a severe drought. It's good to see the snow, but I wish it would come all in one day as opposed to over four days where you have to clear the driveway and sidewalks every time it snows.

Not since 2013 have I seen anything like this:
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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“firmageddon”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/15/oregon-dead-fir-trees-conifers-climate-crisis
Scientists have discovered a record number of dead fir trees in Oregon, in a foreboding sign of how drought and the climate crisis are ravaging the American west.

A recent aerial survey found that more than a million acres of forest contain trees that have succumbed to stressors exacerbated by a multi-year drought. Images released by the US Forest Service show Oregon’s lush green expanses dotted with ominous swathes of red.
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.usnews.com/news/top-new...llion-dollar-energy-bazooka-may-not-be-enough
FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Germany is bleeding cash to keep the lights on. Almost half a trillion dollars, and counting, since the Ukraine war jolted it into an energy crisis nine months ago.
That's the cumulative scale of the bailouts and schemes the Berlin government has launched to prop up the country's energy system since prices rocketed and it lost access to gas from main supplier Russia, according to Reuters calculations.
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Europe's preeminent economy, long a byword for prudent planning, now finds itself at the mercy of the weather. Energy rationing is a risk in the event of a long cold spell this winter, Germany's first in half a century without Russian gas.
The country has turned to the pricier spot, or cash, energy market to replace some of the lost Russian supplies, helping drive inflation into double-digits. There's no security in sight either, with the push to build up of two alternatives to Russian fuel - liquefied natural gas (LNG) and renewables - years away from targeted levels.
Ironic that environmentalists (that I basically agree with) in Germany now must pray for a warm winter caused by global warming.
 
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Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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https://www.usnews.com/news/top-new...llion-dollar-energy-bazooka-may-not-be-enough


Ironic that environmentalists (that I basically agree with) in Germany now must pray for a warm winter caused by global warming.
My heart goes out to them. Last I saw Germany should experience a slightly warmer 2022/2023 winter but how much will it matter? Even if it is the warmest since 1991 on average the guesstimate is maybe 2.0 degrees C. We have gone from Global Warming to Climate Change which for Germany and other countries really matters not if they have bitter cold. Right now they are between a rock and a hard place.

Ron
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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2˚C over the entire globe translates to a whole lot of heat energy. Tropical storms gain strength considerably when the water temperature is just 1˚F warmer. This deceptively slight elevation significantly shifts the wind patterns bringing warm air into the arctic where they're seeing average of 10˚F average warmer temperatures. With hot winds blowing into the north cold winds must go somewhere. They often race down Canada and into the US where mid western and eastern states see much stronger and colder storms. The global heat is being redistributed in a manor that is melting the polar caps and raising sea levels. Houston is just 50 feet above sea level. It won't take a whole lot to swamp Huston. Florida is already seeing the effects of sea level change. Towns that were once high and dry are now mostly submerged. Residents that didn't get out 10 or 20 years ago are now owners of worthless property. In Alaska, native Eskimo have had to move their villages back further and further every year because of ever so slight changes in ocean levels. And what was once permafrost is now muck.

Don't let 2˚ fool you. That's a serious change. One that can have catastrophic effects on the human race as well as all other animals. Higher sea levels drive humans further into the higher lands where animals also inhabit. We shoot them or ruin their food supplies and they die out. Inevitably mankind will suffer a great culling of the herd. I don't know how many humans will die but the number will be staggering.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
16,334
2˚C over the entire globe translates to a whole lot of heat energy. Tropical storms gain strength considerably when the water temperature is just 1˚F warmer. This deceptively slight elevation significantly shifts the wind patterns bringing warm air into the arctic where they're seeing average of 10˚F average warmer temperatures. With hot winds blowing into the north cold winds must go somewhere. They often race down Canada and into the US where mid western and eastern states see much stronger and colder storms. The global heat is being redistributed in a manor that is melting the polar caps and raising sea levels. Houston is just 50 feet above sea level. It won't take a whole lot to swamp Huston. Florida is already seeing the effects of sea level change. Towns that were once high and dry are now mostly submerged. Residents that didn't get out 10 or 20 years ago are now owners of worthless property. In Alaska, native Eskimo have had to move their villages back further and further every year because of ever so slight changes in ocean levels. And what was once permafrost is now muck.

Don't let 2˚ fool you. That's a serious change. One that can have catastrophic effects on the human race as well as all other animals. Higher sea levels drive humans further into the higher lands where animals also inhabit. We shoot them or ruin their food supplies and they die out. Inevitably mankind will suffer a great culling of the herd. I don't know how many humans will die but the number will be staggering.
+1

If things get too warm in the US we can always invade Canada for the newly tropical beaches near the Arctic circle.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Tropical storms gain strength considerably when the water temperature is just 1˚F warmer.
Oh yeah very much so. sitting here on Lake Erie we pray the lake freezes over early. Cold air comes down from Canada over the warm lake and once it gets inland we have what is called Lake Effect snow. Hell in a short period of time Buffalo got about 7 feet a few weeks ago. So much snow the Cleveland Buffalo game was played in Detroit. Never heard of Lake Effect snow till I got here. Hell snow id snow. We get enough bitter cold and once the lake freezes over things improve, hell the ice fisherman love it also. Some winters are warmer and some bitter cold sub zero F for days and weeks at a time. Next week they say colder and snow. Till now not so bad.

Ron
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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I would ask my students, if you flew due east from here where would you hit land? Invariably they would say northern Europe or England. I'd have to tell them no actually you would hit land in north Africa! They wouldn't believe me so they would go and look at a map. And yes, due east of south coastal Georgia is Morocco and the western Sahara Desert in north Africa! No wonder it gets so hot!
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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I keep telling my friends that I was born on the wrong latitude
Didn't you mean you were born with the wrong attitude?

JK.

I remember the day I argued with my teacher about going east from New York was the shortest distance to England. She took a string and a globe and showed me that the shortest distance was over Greenland and Iceland. Even after seeing it I didn't believe it. Took many years of maturing before I was able to accept that the shortest distance from here to 180˚ on the same latitude was by going due north.

As for the temperature, last five years my pond hasn't frozen. Yesterday I noticed it had a glassy glaze across the top. Good thing I have a circulating pump that warms the water enough to keep an opening so ammonia does not build up.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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We have gone from Global Warming to Climate Change...
Yeah, in the early years of a new science discipline, there are some fits and starts trying to describe the things and processes. The Electrical world is still spending time explaining away electron flow vs current flow. Think of the challenge the climate scientists have, they can't get their whole project on their workbench. It's going to take them some time to figure out all the details and we should expect changing guidance along the way, not criticize it. The same courtesy should have been given to the public health officials during Covid.
 
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