Here in San Francisco, every neighborhood is experiencing a huge wave of crime against persons and property.

Car break ins are very common in my neighborhood which is supposed to be one of the safer parts of the city. I walk about 3-1/2 blocks to the store and every week there's broken car glass on the street from a car burglary.

They are so common that the police don't bother to investigate them unless you've got a detailed photo of the suspect and a sample of his DNA. Otherwise, a car burglary is treated like a 2.5 earthquake on the Hayward Fault.

And then there's the BART transit system which has become a criminal's paradise on wheels. Phone robberies are a common event but several riders have been stabbed. There are more vacant storefronts appearing all over the city and that's an ominous sign that the place is the socio-economic equivalent of a sinking ship.

 

I live in a forest. Generally it is pretty safe. I have a problem with inconsiderate people throwing their "take out" waste along side the road. The other two-legged nuisance is woodpeckers on my log home.

Raccoons and ground hogs are pests. I expedited more than 50 my first year. That crime rate has now been cut at least in half. Squirrels are still a nuisance.

 

I live in a forest. Generally it is pretty safe. I have a problem with inconsiderate people throwing their "take out" waste along side the road. The other two-legged nuisance is woodpeckers on my log home.

Raccoons and ground hogs are pests. I expedited more than 50 my first year. That crime rate has now been cut at least in half. Squirrels are still a nuisance.

Why do you consider raccoons, ground hogs, woodpeckers, and squirrels a nuisance? After living in two concrete jungles (L.A. and San Francisco) most of my life, I'd welcome wild (but tame) animals to come roaming around my home. In fact, people here in S.F. drive for an hour to visit the open spaces (like Muir Woods) and see all the animals in the wilderness.

 

Tree rats eat my pecans and coons, foxes, minks, weasels, break into my henhouse and eat my chickens. Don't mind the armadillos much but they do mess up the yard digging for ants and are carriers for leprosy. Don't have groundhogs except for the full-sized feral hogs and woodpeckers only bother me when they use my metal roof for their sounding board to peck on when they're in the mood. I'll take them any day over some bum crapping on the sidewalk in front of my house though and stealing to support their drug habit.

 

Tree rats eat my pecans and coons, foxes, minks, weasels, break into my henhouse and eat my chickens. Don't mind the armadillos much but they do mess up the yard digging for ants and are carriers for leprosy. Don't have groundhogs except for the full-sized feral hogs and woodpeckers only bother me when they use my metal roof for their sounding board to peck on when they're in the mood. I'll take them any day over some bum crapping on the sidewalk in front of my house though and stealing to support their drug habit.

San Francisco (and other large cities) are now like living in the Third World. People with the $$$ to buy a home in the suburbs are moving out of big cities in droves.

The extreme East Bay region is a prime location for single family homes in a quiet neighborhood. But it's also right between the Calaveras Fault and the Concord Fault. However, the residents say they'd rather put up with earthquakes centered in their backyard than deal with all the hassles of city living.

 

I live in Bangkok, I feel safer here than any place in the USA these days.
When I go back for a visit, I feel the need to fire up the old "Defensive Radar System" in my mind.

Home here in Thailand, I turn that system off and leave it to gather dust.

 

That has been true of most cities I have lived in or visited. The Ubanization of America, flee the downtown poverty to live in the suburbs. Luckily I live in a small coastal county where I could not even begin to afford the 3.5 acres of marshfront property and 2800 sq ft home I live in even a few counties up or down the coast from me. When they built the King's Bay Naval Trident Sub-base near here they brought in the rocket engineers from California. They thought they had died and gone to heaven the property costs were so different. We get a lot of northern retirees who sell their home, move here, build a new home and put 2/3s of what they made selling their home up north into the bank and have a nicer home here than the did up north. Not to mention taxes and cost of living.

 

You got that right.

Over the past 10 years, I've seen San Francisco transformed from a world class city into a Third World dump like the slums of India with 1000s of people living in tents on the street.

After walking down the street in my former quiet neighborhood (that's now littered with people laying and passed out on the sidewalk), my "Combat Mode" instinct is turned on full scale. To make matters worse, the stupid voters just keep approving more taxes and fees under the illusion that just throwing more money at the problem will make everything go away. Then there's the left wing media that's always promoting more government spending as a way of turning a socio-economic hell hole into a utopia.

Right now, I'm looking for homes back in Kansas and Oklahoma. I will be trading the risk of an earthquake for a tornado, but my urge to kick a hole in the wall will be reduced by several orders of magnitude.

 

Right now, I'm looking for homes back in Kansas and Oklahoma. I will be trading the risk of an earthquake for a tornado, but my urge to kick a hole in the wall will be reduced by several orders of magnitude.

Hays,KS is the tornado center of the US. At least that's what it used to be called. If you like warmth but not miserably hot, I would stay between I-70 (old US40) and I-80. I-40 (old US66) goes through Memphis, OKC, and similar places. It is too hot and muggy in the Summer for me, until you get into Arizona and New Mexico.

 

Why do you consider raccoons, ground hogs, woodpeckers, and squirrels a nuisance?

Racoons and skunks do more harm than good. Together, they've killed dozens of my chickens. They find ways to dig under the chicken wire that I laid on the ground and connected to the bottom of the chicken wire barrier around the coop. They were so persistent that I had to put the chickens in my barn. The racoons bother our cats and I had to shoot one that kept coming back and threatening a stray's kittens.

Regarding crime. I live in a rural area where the homes are on 5 acres and we have relatively low crime, but when we have it, it's a doozy. I heard gunshots on the vacant property across the road from me shortly after I moved in. It took the deputy about 45 minutes to get there and the perp was gone by then. He said he found ammo, spent shells, and a stolen vehicle and that I should call if anything else happens. I knew then that we needed to take care of ourselves. I told my neighbor who's property was adjacent to that lot and we agreed to watch out for each other.

The only robbery was on that same property after the property owner allowed his daughter and her husband to put up a manufactured home. She made the mistake of having her luggage visible from a window when she was preparing for an extended stay out of the country and not locking her door when she wasn't home.

Another time, the kids of the woman who got robbed decided to joy ride in her van while they were home alone. The oldest was around 13. They terrorized the neighborhood and eventually wreck the van in front of her house. They didn't have a phone, so they knocked on my door and asked me to call the fire department. After I determined that it was the van that was tearing up the road, I told them to let it burn. When I saw that it was on fire, I called the fire department and told them to stay by my house. The woman's 5 year old twins didn't have any coats on, so I let them wait in my house. Several deputies came out and the female deputy wanted to have charges made against them, but the males said they were just being boys. At least one of those older boys later started dealing drugs (as a juvenile).

The usual MO for thieves here is they work in pairs. One engages the homeowner about some bogus concern or service they provide (logging), while their accomplice scopes the area for things they can steal while the homeowner is engaged. That doesn't happen much these days.

We did have a bunch of homeless people camping on a lot that some woman was letting her useless former son-in-law stay at the house. He invited other people to stay on the property and they started supplementing their funds by stealing from the neighbors. My property is too far away for them to make the effort to go the mile and a half. Most neighbors will stop strange vehicles on our private road and ask who they're looking for.

 

As an existentialistic vision, there's always an instant remedy to have a more stable and less criminized world around,

just try to devote 1$ for culture (cinema ,music theater,..),1$ for medicine & health (pills,safe foods,sports...),1$ for security (security camera acoounts,dog food,paying police service bills,...),1$ for love (churchs,pary time,loving/helping others,..),1$ for wisdom/rationality (books,advices,...)...and other possible essential things every day.
if ther's no money,by devoting some energy for them,enjoying nicer life behind the sunshine.
more info about " Existentialism and Engineering":

 

As an existentialistic vision, there's always an instant remedy to have a more stable and less criminized world around,
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if ther's no money,by devoting some energy for them,enjoying nicer life behind the sunshine.

Any change needs to start with the parents. Parents who let their child run wild and don't raise them in a supportive, truthful environment are the main contributors to the problem. Letting your children associate with the "bad" kids is a mistake. Kids that used to be in my childrens' circles of friends who started associating with the "bad kids" invariably became bad kids themselves. By choosing to hang around bad kids, they had to become bad kids to be accepted.

Even if families have little money, there's no reason not to raise children to earn what they want (either by working or being good) and to be truthful.

 

It started with this guy -

"At the time, his books were criticized for propagating permissiveness and an expectation of instant gratification which allegedly led young people to join these movements—a charge that Spock denied. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Spock

 

@Glenn Holland
This ought to really scare you from moving to Louisiana: One death for 4.6x10^6 million people from bad weather (https://www.foxnews.com/us/louisiana-tornadoes-reported-church-homes-damaged). The current crime rate for violent crime in SFO is 7250/million.. Seems like a no brainer, even compared to LA.

I grew up in East LA in the late 40, 50's and very early 60's. But the crimes you read about in those days were different. Almost every night, I went on "house calls" with my dad (who was a GP physician) to the barrios of East LA. We did not feel unsafe. Today, not only the crime rates have changed, but the character of the crimes has changed.

Contrary to the advice of Horace Greeley, go East, but not too far. My octogenarian brother stays there only because of his children. I presume you are not in that situation.

 

One thing about living in a semirural area. Once the kids got out of college and had seen the "Big City Lights" they all took off. 1 in P'burgh, 1 in Seattle although he travels worldwide for his job, 1 somewhere around Turkey/Georgia although she is coming home for Christmas. One adult Asperger's son living at home with mom and dad.

 

I grew up Brooklyn, NY during the 50s, early 60s. Later teen years family moved "out on the island" (Long Island). Today the small LI town we moved to reminds me of East NY or any of the worst sections of NYC growing up. Crime and blight is everywhere. I see this in most major US city suburbia. I figure by the time where I now am is really bad I should be dead so I am not overly worried. I avoid any trips to downtown Cleveland since things have gotten ugly there. My companion of choice is a .45 ACP and I avoid any public transportation.

Here in San Francisco, every neighborhood is experiencing a huge wave of crime against persons and property.

Sadly, you are not alone.

Ron

 

Any change needs to start with the parents. Parents who let their child run wild and don't raise them in a supportive, truthful environment are the main contributors to the problem. Letting your children associate with the "bad" kids is a mistake. Kids that used to be in my childrens' circles of friends who started associating with the "bad kids" invariably became bad kids themselves. By choosing to hang around bad kids, they had to become bad kids to be accepted.

Even if families have little money, there's no reason not to raise children to earn what they want (either by working or being good) and to be truthful.

BTW that,nowadays medias are directley blamed for increasing crime rate in the world,
they recklessly upload horrid news,movies,contents,etc to people's mind and remove enormity of sins and crimes by that.
hope that some groups and peoples completely shut'em down one day.

 

BTW that,nowadays medias are directley blamed for increasing crime rate in the world,
they recklessly upload horrid news,movies,contents,etc to people's mind and remove enormity of sins and crimes by that.
hope that some groups and peoples completely shut'em down one day.

I think first person shooter games are more of a problem. They're very gory and desensitize players to violent acts.

 

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Where I live we all have guns.
Now along with the right to shoot someone breaking in your house and the right to shoot someone in your yard (If threatened) I'm pretty sure the bad guys get the point

Brzrkr

 

BTW that,nowadays medias are directley blamed for increasing crime rate in the world,
they recklessly upload horrid news,movies,contents,etc to people's mind and remove enormity of sins and crimes by that.
hope that some groups and peoples completely shut'em down one day.

Interesting discussion could spawn from that. Not so much true here. My area is the Greater Cleveland, Ohio USA suburbs. A good portion of the actual crime never makes the local newspaper. Years ago everything made the news from a dog at large to a homicide. Today it pretty much takes a very violent crime like a homicide to make the papers. Even then specific facts are often held back. Part of the reasoning is cities try to sell themselves in the public eye. Things like large conventions that bring in big money are not looking to host their conventions in crime ridden cities where any attendee stands a chance of being robbed at gun point or car jacked if they leave their hotel. Crime, especially violent crime is played down.

Here is another example going to San Francisco where thread starter Glen Holland is. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit)

This is not the sort of video any chamber of commerce wants to promote their chamber of commerce.

Ron