The next letter up in Greek alphabet for new variants would be Nu but Omicron was selected because of the Knights of Ni. In Greek, 'Nu' is pronounced 'Ni' or 'Nee' (as in, the knights who say ni, not 'new').

So, how to you say omicron?

 

So far many of the articles that I read fiscuss the following - yes there is firtile ground for mutations in Africa as there is an HIV epidemic going on. However many of HIV affected individuals managed to survive with COVID gor many months and eventually overcome it so it lloks like the mutated virus is pretty mild if it does not kill someone who is that immunocompromised.

Just my observation

Good observation that's consistent with normal virus evolution and the current small data-set of cases.

https://www.businessinsider.com/omicron-coronavirus-variant-cases-mild-south-africa-2021-11

"It may be it's highly transmissible, but so far the cases we are seeing are extremely mild," Angelique Coetzee, chair of the South African Medical Association, told The Guardian on Friday. "Maybe two weeks from now I will have a different opinion, but this is what we are seeing."

 

Whats even more bizarre that people with a natural immunity to HIV are said to be descended from folks who survived the Black Plague.

Said? By who? That’s an amazingly stupid fantasy that you are spreading.

 

Said? By who? That’s an amazingly stupid fantasy that you are spreading.

https://www.nature.com/news/2005/050307/full/news050307-15.html

Devastating epidemics that swept Europe during the Middle Ages seem to have had an unexpected benefit - leaving 10% of today's Europeans resistant to HIV infection.


But epidemics of which disease? Researchers claimed this week that plague helped boost our immunity to HIV, but rival teams are arguing that the credit should go to smallpox.


What is clear is that something has boosted the prevalence of a mutation that helps protect against the virus. The mutation, which affects a protein called CCR5 on the surface of white blood cells, prevents HIV from entering these cells and damaging the immune system.

Duncan admits that his theory is difficult to prove. But he argues that the outbreaks are easier to explain if one assumes that plague was passed directly from person to person as a virus, rather than the 'bubonic plague' that was caused by bacteria carried by rats and their fleas. "Rats are absolutely in the clear for Europe," he argues.

https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/coronavirus.166679/post-1672536

Humans adapt to conditions. People in Africa have mutations for endemic malaria.

 

Whats even more bizarre that people with a natural immunity to HIV are said to be descended from folks who survived the Black Plague.

why is that strange?

i am pretty sure that the only reason anyone is alive today is because their predecessors managed to survive long enough to procreate and raise offspring. and diseases are not one time events, they come and go in waves. even if some did not get exposed to one disease in one wave, they would likely at some point procreate with survivor and their offspring would carry the gene and have better change to survive the next wave. if they did not manage to build immunity, next wave would wipe them out and they would have few if any descendants. and they would be prone to succumb to disease too.

 

The South African Covid mutation occurred in some unvaccinated people (they do not get many vaccines there) and mutations can also develop here in the antivaxxers.
The mandates prevent many antivaxers from working which affects many other businesses because vaccinated people cannot get to work with the transportation antivaxxers not working.
Old age homes have fewer attendants because the mandates prevent the antivax ones from working.
Hospitals have fewer nurses because the antivax ones are not working.
School kids have fewer teachers because the antivax ones are not working.
Stores are not receiving shipments because the antivax drivers are seriously ill in the hospitals.

Now the stock market has crashed because the everybody knows that antivax people will spread the new African mutation around.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/s-afr...-from-omicron-we-wont-have-a-severe-epidemic/

A top adviser to the South African government on the coronavirus pandemic said Friday that while the new Omicron variant of the virus — first documented in his country — was worrying, he did not believe the strain would lead to a major new wave of serious illness.

Virologist Barry Schoub, the head of South Africa’s Ministerial Advisory Committee on COVID-19 vaccines, told Israel’s Channel 12 news that based on initial data from cases in South Africa, it seemed the vaccine would still protect most people from severe COVID-19.

“I think what we can be pretty comfortable… that the vaccine will still prevent serious disease,” he said. “That I think we are pretty sure about. How effective it will be in preventing milder disease — that we’ve still got to understand.”
But like Schoub, Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, the Health Ministry’s head of public services, noted that vaccinated individuals who have contracted the new variant appear to generally have a mild illness only.

If this displaces the delta variant it might be a long-term positive mutation in reducing sickness and death. Instead of all gloom and doom this could be one of the variants needed to end the pandemic in a natural cycle.

 

I cannot see what percentage of people in Israel are fully vaccinated for Covid. Maybe like here, the most of the unvaxxed are little kids who do not get much sickness and death.

Then in some countries that have many unvaxxed people the unvaxxed little kids will take their unvaxxed seriously ill parents to the hospital.

Pleeese everybody get vaccinated and also get the booster shot. Then the world can soon be normal again.

 

Humans adapt to conditions. People in Africa have mutations for endemic malaria

And some of those mutations live on in American Blacks as sickle cell disease. So much for internet fueled amateur epidemiologists.

 

I cannot see what percentage of people in Israel are fully vaccinated for Covid. Maybe like here, the most of the unvaxxed are little kids who do not get much sickness and death.

Then in some countries that have many unvaxxed people the unvaxxed little kids will take their unvaxxed seriously ill parents to the hospital.

Pleeese everybody get vaccinated and also get the booster shot. Then the world can soon be normal again.

Yes, get vaccinated and booster shots to reduce the effect of (re)infection.
Sadly, the evidence says just vaccination won't get us back to normal (pre-covid-19) in the near-term. High levels of vaccination will keep cases, sickness and deaths under control but the 'new' normal will be when the virus is done with us. This is why there is a hope that variants like Omicron are less dangerous than Delta in all cases, vaxx'd or not.

 

Said? By who? That’s an amazingly stupid fantasy that you are spreading.

https://www.nature.com/news/2005/050307/full/news050307-15.html

What is clear is that something has boosted the prevalence of a mutation that helps protect against the virus. The mutation, which affects a protein called CCR5 on the surface of white blood cells, prevents HIV from entering these cells and damaging the immune system.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/10/4/l_104_05.html

Dr. Stephen O'Brien's work with HIV led to a discovery that could one day help scientists treat or prevent HIV infection: People from some European populations carry a genetic mutation that prevents HIV from entering their white blood cells. O'Brien hypothesizes that this mutation, dating back 700 years, may have been a selective advantage during the bubonic plague, as it is today, with the onslaught of HIV. From Evolution:"Evolutionary Arms Race."

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And some of those mutations live on in American Blacks as sickle cell disease. So much for internet fueled amateur epidemiologists.

I have one of the African mutations in my blood (I've had the 3rd shot for the immune compromised after a doctors consultation) so I'm very familiar with the evolutionary tradeoffs from acute malarial sickness to chronic disease like sickle cell.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20007901/

 

I cannot see what percentage of people in Israel are fully vaccinated for Covid. Maybe like here, the most of the unvaxxed are little kids who do not get much sickness and death.

Never heard of This site?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

Data for lots of places.

 

why is that strange?

i am pretty sure that the only reason anyone is alive today is because their predecessors managed to survive long enough to procreate and raise offspring. and diseases are not one time events, they come and go in waves. even if some did not get exposed to one disease in one wave, they would likely at some point procreate with survivor and their offspring would carry the gene and have better change to survive the next wave. if they did not manage to build immunity, next wave would wipe them out and they would have few if any descendants. and they would be prone to succumb to disease too.

What is bizarre the selective nature of virus, bacteria, other organisms. One group survival while others perish, seemingly pre programmed, targeted to a degree.

Make me go Hmn.

kv

 

we are all selective... some like sushi, some like salad...

maybe viruses find certain humans irresistible.

 

Viruses like antivaxxed people.

 

i bet they like to survive too.

"It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well," Coetzee explained. "So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer the loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home.

 

i bet they like to survive too.

These are previously health fairly young people. We have no public scientific disease severity data on the general SA public's exposure to omicron, so ideas and hopes (I hope it's generally milder) of what omicron will do is pure speculation today. Maybe in a week or two we can have a better idea of how this will play-out.

https://sacoronavirus.co.za/2021/11/27/update-on-covid-19-saturday-27-november-2021/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...r-raised-alarm-omicron-variant-says-symptoms/

“Their symptoms were so different and so mild from those I had treated before,” said Dr Coetzee, a GP for 33 years who chairs the South African Medical Association alongside running her practice.
...
Dr Coetzee, who was briefing other African medical associations on Saturday, made clear her patients were all healthy and she was worried the new variant could still hit older people – with co-morbidities such as diabetes or heart disease – much harder.


“What we have to worry about now is that when older, unvaccinated people are infected with the new variant, and if they are not vaccinated, we are going to see many people with a severe [form of the] disease,” she said.


South African demographics are very different from those in the UK. Only about six per cent of the population are over the age of 65. This means that older individuals who are more vulnerable to the virus may take some time to present.

 

The doctors for patients with the South African Covid-19 variant said the patients had mild symptoms of severe fatigue and complete exhaustion. They did not have the expected severe symptoms of loss of taste or smell.

I forgot about that. I never lost my sense of taste and smell so I guess I was never infected with the old variants of Covid-19.
Since I am fully vaccinated and boosted then I did not know and will never know if I have or had the old virus without having a test.

 

That one makes as much sense as Ivermectin as a covid deterrent. Your life your way, just so glad we live very far apart!

Do yourself a favor: go 50 seconds into this video and note the "very strange coincidence".

Ivermectin was a Japanese discovery. Note the connection with Africa where it is used as an anti-marlrial drug (not just a "horse de-wormer").