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It's your RIGHT to remain in a Bubble and refuse to look at any conflicting information.

Some people just can't process conflicting information,
so I can understand how this could happen.

It may take decades to learn how to work-around a "maybe" or a "possibility"
until things start to add-up to a definite trend, then towards a single conclusion,
and then finally into a conclusion that has very little "wiggle-room" and
becomes a ~95% fact.
(very little is absolute, and everything is subject to unrecognized outside influences)

What is it that keeps people in a tiny-box, with blinders on,
and with their fingers in their Ears going LA-LA-LA-LA-I can't hear you-LA-LA-LA-LA,
I know what causes this, but do You ?????
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I wonder the same for people sucked into conspiracy theories.

So I guess that we've found middle ground :)
 

LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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I wonder the same for people sucked into conspiracy theories.

So I guess that we've found middle ground :)
Some people do get "sucked-in" to all kinds of crap.

Do You believe that there is no such thing as a Conspiracy ?
Or is it that what You are stuck-on could not possibly be a Conspiracy ?
Or is it that anything that differs from what You believe is a "Conspiracy-Theory" ?

How do You KNOW that what You believe is NOT a Conspiracy ?
The fact of the matter is, that You don't KNOW,
and can't "prove" that it is not a Conspiracy.

There are only "probabilities", which You treat as an absolute FACT or FALLACY.

Many people can be "paid-off" to do or say absolutely anything.

Many people can be "threatened" to do or say absolutely anything.

Many people will do absolutely anything for the promise of Power.

And some people
are just plain more Evil than You can possibly imagine in your wildest dreams.

I choose to believe very little, based on the above observations.
Question everything, without exception.
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LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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Unless it's on bitchute, then it is factual?

Help me out here...
There's no limit to the amount of crap that You can find on the Internet,
especially on any "Social-Media" Platform.

But that doesn't mean that there are NO good sources,
and it also doesn't mean that any particular Platform is 100% garbage.

I take that back ..........
ALL of the Television-Networks are, in fact,
100% garbage, and outright fabricated LIES.
And, of course, they have their own Channels on the Internet and YouTube.

YouTube is loaded with TV-Network-Channels.
All the "Social-Media" sites have TV-Network-Channels

BitChute has zero TV-Network-Channels,
quite a few wackos, but no TV,
and only about maybe ~15 or ~20 excellent News-Channels.

Rumble is about the same as BitChute as far as "Good sources of News",
but it's about the same as YouTube was ~15-Years ago ........
lots of funny "Cat-Videos", and other goofy "personal" Channels.

Pick your Poison ..........
TV, proven 150% Propaganda, or,
BitChute / Rumble,
with the good Channels being dead-accurate around ~95% of the time.

I still use YouTube for odd entertainment,
but YouTube's Censorship has gone WAY over the top.
Any one talking about a "forbidden topic" is instantly erased from the Platform.
No legitimate reason given, there is no recourse.
Simply stating the word "Ivermectin" will get your channel erased within minutes.
Ever asked yourself WHY they should care ?

BitChute and Rumble don't Censor anything,
and they're growing like crazy because of it.
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dead-accurate around ~95% of the time.
Let's do an experiment.

Find me a prediction made by your favourite channel, something that we can make a falsifiable statement from, and then we'll see if it comes true in a few weeks.

YouTube is loaded with TV-Network-Channels.
A channel on YouTube that I've grown to like is "Altium" - If you get a chance look up the Rick Hartley on how to design ground planes properly. There is also an "Altium Academy" channel if you use it for work.

ALL of the Television-Networks are, in fact,
100% garbage, and outright fabricated LIES.
Do you not watch sport?

I do agree that news is not 100% accurate, especially when it comes to reporting scientific papers.

Sometimes you go to the scientific paper and it is *nothing* like the news report.

Compare this article here to it's paper here and you'll see what I mean...

For me repeatability studies are the best ones to read, because that is where you see most things get falsified. You'll know if the study has been falsified, because it will have the words "redacted" on it.

Do you read any studies? You should, because it is a good way to do your own fact checking.
 

panic mode

Joined Oct 10, 2011
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while some try to engage in genuine conversation about discerning truth from falsehoods, others are engaging in mockery, name calling and chastising. the first group tries to present everything in plain form thoughts and doubts. the later group is so sure that they are perfectly aware of truth because it comes from their favorite channel - no validation necessary.
 

panic mode

Joined Oct 10, 2011
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problem with platforms like Youtube etc. is not the lack of good content but the bias and censorship. accusing alternative sources of spreading conspiracy theories and then putting trust in Youtube because of Altium tutorials makes no sense. i did not know that Altium tutorials are shrouded in political and moral controversy. besides there is plenty of garbage content (regardless of topic) on any platform and Youtube is certainly not immune.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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while some try to engage in genuine conversation about discerning truth from falsehoods, others are engaging in mockery, name calling and chastising. the first group tries to present everything in plain form thoughts and doubts. the later group is so sure that they are perfectly aware of truth because it comes from their favorite channel - no validation necessary.
And the third group analyzes the two groups that their mind divided everything into.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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A sad case:


I wonder if this poor fella was an anti-vaxxer? ... why would anyone decline treatment for such a dangerous exposure? Did he think himself too old to fight for his health?

The Lake County man, in his 80s, awoke in mid-August to find a bat on his neck.
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A month later, the man started experiencing symptoms of rabies, including neck pain, difficulty controlling his arms, finger numbness and difficulty speaking.
 

LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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Let's do an experiment.

Find me a prediction made by your favourite channel, something that we can make a falsifiable statement from, and then we'll see if it comes true in a few weeks.


A channel on YouTube that I've grown to like is "Altium" - If you get a chance look up the Rick Hartley on how to design ground planes properly. There is also an "Altium Academy" channel if you use it for work.


Do you not watch sport?

I do agree that news is not 100% accurate, especially when it comes to reporting scientific papers.

Sometimes you go to the scientific paper and it is *nothing* like the news report.

Compare this article here to it's paper here and you'll see what I mean...

For me repeatability studies are the best ones to read, because that is where you see most things get falsified. You'll know if the study has been falsified, because it will have the words "redacted" on it.

Do you read any studies? You should, because it is a good way to do your own fact checking.
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The Channels that I watch rarely, if ever, make predictions.
Generally, they pick-apart Speeches, News-Stories, defamatory-Articles, etc.,
and compare them with contradicting documentation that
is readily available for down-load from their own respective sites,
or Official-Government-sites.

Also common are ~1 to ~1.5-hour interviews with
Industry or Government-Agency Insiders, Whistle-Blowers,
Book-Authors, Doctors, etc.

I already summarized my major Bullet-Point-Predictions
in a rather long previous post.

I seldom, if ever, quote any single source, I think it's foolish to do so.
I've spent years vetting the Channels that I subscribe to, and develop a
consensus after analyzing the probabilities for at least several weeks,
and sometimes up to 2-years,
before I will put any weight on that probability.

And keep in mind that I have ~40-years of part-time study,
in a seriously wide variety of very complex fields as a background.
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I don't watch current or "live" Sports,
and I haven't owned a TV for something like ~8-years.
I may occasionally watch various different kinds of Motor-Sports on YouTube,
and occasionally keep up with Computer and Electronics Hardware,
Drone technology, Race-Engine technology, Machining and Wood-Working,
and a few others, for entertainment.
I don't consider myself to be particularly competent in Electronics,
that's the main reason I hang out here quite a bit,
it forces me to polish-up on my sloppy, self-taught, Hobbyist-Electronics-Education.
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Studies and "Papers" .............
I would much rather listen to the critique of those Studies or Papers
by someone who works in the particular field in question.
I have excellent BS detection capabilities, I've seen a lot of it.

I also try to ascertain the source of the person's income, and income-level,
relative to the subject matter being discussed.

I find the "Research-Scientist-Business" to be cut-throat and
easily manipulated by big-money and the constant clamoring for "Grants".
Of course these Grants may be extended,
that is, of course, if You generate "findings" that we like.
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Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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I've definately been guilty of forgetting I was wearing a mask and driving lol
Same. Anymore some places I visit require a mask and some don't. Local Rite Aid drug store, mask. Visited the local VA (Veterans Affairs) this morning and mask required. I keep a zip loc baggie in the truck with mask. Half the time when I leave a place I forget to remove the mask. Me, who would look at people driving alone and wearing a mask. Go figure. The reason I wear a mask is I don't need people all freaked out in a store telling me I am not wearing a mask. Mask cause me no discomfort or anything else adverse. On another note my wife was in therapy and they monitor her blood oxygen. They asked her to remove the mask and sure enough her blood oxygen returned to a normal level.

Anyway, for me the mask is of no inconvenience much like the vaccinations had absolutely no ill effects on myself or my wife. I figure if wearing a mask keeps some paranoid people around me from freaking out it's worth it just to wear a mask. Sort of humorous when entering the bank which previously prohibited any facial covering and now want me masked. I guess anymore I just run with the flow.

Nice day today, think I'll load some ammunition, you can never have too much ammo. :)

Ron
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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What about this?


I'd say that 54,000 deaths is too many
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It's true that there is no long term data, but current data shows that most cases of myocarditis/pericarditis following COVID-19 mRNA vaccination have mild symptoms and recover well.
Australian analysis is the same in regards to blood clots. Basically no deaths prevented for under 30 with potentially deadly side effects. You have to keep in mind also that not all of these clots are captured. Actual incidence is definitely higher (you dont have to believe me, but I have long experince with medical system, both as a patient and working in it now)
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Australian analysis is the same in regards to blood clots. Basically no deaths prevented for under 30 with potentially deadly side effects. You have to keep in mind also that not all of these clots are captured. Actual incidence is definitely higher (you dont have to believe me, but I have long experince with medical system, both as a patient and working in it now)
So what's your alternative to this very small group risk that's a net benefit to the public in general. Just let all the 30 somethings continue to be infected community virus carriers leading to additional variants that just might lead to prior-vaccinated resistant variants that start killing people in groups with much higher risk factors?

Large groups of people have taken much higher risks in their lives (many have lost their lives) for the general good. People are not asking them to face a bullet in the arm, it's only a 'shot' in the arm.
 
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