I'm on the fence regarding Youtube's censorship strategy... I understand why they do it... misinformation kills people...
But on the other hand, censoring something also draws more attention towards it.

I'm not a poster to Youtube, but it was always my understanding that it was like here, not a democracy, they control what can or can't be posted to it. So if they have a moderation group that monitors it, they can delete what they see as not fit to be seen.

People seem to think the first amendment covers every thing anyone wants to say, and that it covers the public or a company from censoring or not allowing things to be said. That is NOT what the amendment says, it says CONGRESS can't stop a person, not a private entity/person.

"The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government." A better read is here - https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

 

Funeral directors in NY claim Covid numbers are being inflated.

Two glaring problems just in the opening shot of that Youtube video.

1. it is from "project Veritas". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas

2. it says "breaking news" but yet it's from 4/22/20. How breaking is that?

 

correct... everyone is entitled to opinion and 1A guarantees that. but when platforms are allowed to target specific opinions they are biased. don't need censorship, bias and coverups that YouTube, FP etc. actively engage in.

So you don't think there is any bias at Bitchute?

 

FWIW almost HALF of new cases are vaccinated individuals. So while it may indeed afford SOME protection these treatments are nonetheless not completely reliable either.

Lies like this should not be allowed on this website. The vaccines have been proven to be safe and VERY effective after two doses and two weeks.

 

I'm not a poster to Youtube, but it was always my understanding that it was like here, not a democracy, they control what can or can't be posted to it. So if they have a moderation group that monitors it, they can delete what they see as not fit to be seen.

People seem to think the first amendment covers every thing anyone wants to say, and that it covers the public or a company from censoring or not allowing things to be said. That is NOT what the amendment says, it says CONGRESS can't stop a person, not a private entity/person.

"The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government." A better read is here - https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

This is where the laws are behind the times. Currently primary means of expression for many is through social media. Social media is owned by private corporations who are free to sensor this expression at will. Government does not need to engage in sensorship anymore, it has been privatized. The problem is that before it was relatively easy to figure out why governement wants to ailence certain opinions. Do you know what facebook or youtube algoritms are looking for?

 

FWIW almost HALF of new cases are vaccinated individuals. So while it may indeed afford SOME protection these treatments are nonetheless not completely reliable either.

Would you please provide a link to a reputable source for that? What I have seen is 98% of hospitalizations are not vaxed... Not that I consider the the NY Times reputable, but they have posted for GA a 0.1% rate for hospitalized vaxed patients here.
See Covid Breakthrough Hospitalization and Death Rates by State - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 

There's nothing "right-wing" about wanting to verify the veracity of a given statistic. If Covid deaths really have been inflated in so many cases it only stands to reason to ask just how high the ACTUAL number must be. No?

Not having accurate data to work with only makes it harder to assess things properly anyway. If the numbers are wrong then they should be corrected "FOR THE RECORD". Otherwise how can we possibly assess the true risks posed by the virus?

People should most definitely get the vaccine if they care to do so. As for everyone else things seem to be getting along only slightly worse than what would be seen in a typical flu season so nothing to panic about there in any case.

FWIW almost HALF of new cases are vaccinated individuals. So while it may indeed afford SOME protection these treatments are nonetheless not completely reliable either.

2 years in my big question is - where are treatments for this? It was obvious (to some) that vaccine would not solve anything. It is also obvious that sending COVID positive patients with no advice as to what they can do in early stages to avoid escalation of the disease is most rediculous.

For example salt gargle was always used in my family at a first sign of cold to try and prevent full on infection. It often worked.

Guess what?

https://www.ed.ac.uk/usher/elvis-covid-19/about-the-study

Is it a miracle cure? No. Does it cost anything? No. Does it do harm? No.

Why not try it?

 

Funeral directors in NY claim Covid numbers are being inflated.

Anyone familiar with NYC where I grew up is familiar with Hart Island where the mass graves are dug going back to the civil war. During the pandemic literally thousands of deaths were labeled COVID as the cause of death while the dead were never examined. NYC has a population of over eight million so figure every corpse can't be COVID. At one point something like 3,600 dead were labeled COVID as death certificates were simply "hot stamped". Simple pine boxes are simply stacked and covered over. NYC essentially has a logistics problem with dead piling up. Pretty sure a Google of NYC COVID Dead or similar will bring up a few dozen more links. Anyway, yes, the numbers are likely very inflated. Not only in NY but nation wide. Terminal patients with for example lung cancer develop COVID and die so cause of death reflects as COVID.

Article from NY Times:

N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count
The city has added more than 3,700 additional people who were presumed to have died of the coronavirus but had never tested positive.

Problem is the Times wants you to subscribe to read the entire story which sucks but this is some of what I was getting at and this was quite some time ago.


New York City, already a world epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, sharply increased its death toll by more than 3,700 victims on Tuesday, after officials said they were now including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it.
The new figures, released by the city’s Health Department, drove up the number of people killed in New York City to more than 10,000, and appeared to increase the overall United States death count by 17 percent to more than 26,000.
The numbers brought into clearer focus the staggering toll the virus has already taken on the largest city in the United States, where deserted streets are haunted by the near-constant howl of ambulance sirens. Far more people have died in New York City, on a per-capita basis, than in Italy — the hardest-hit country in Europe.
The numbers brought into clearer focus the staggering toll the virus has already taken on the largest city in the United States, where deserted streets are haunted by the near-constant howl of ambulance sirens. Far more people have died in New York City, on a per-capita basis, than in Italy — the hardest-hit country in Europe.

Anyway, you get the idea. In a city with a population almost 9 million people so one wonders how many die daily? The story is over a year old too.



Ron

 

The Covid news in Canada says that people go for a test because they sense that they might have the virus. Almost all new cases are in unvaxed people but many do not admit that they are unvaxed so they are said to have "unknown status". The few vaxed people admit that they are vaxed.
Most people hospitalized are unvaxed. Many vaxed people have no symptoms and do not know they have the virus or have a minor problem that goes away in a couple of days.
Unvaxed people are 60 times more likely to go to Intensive care and have nasty hoses put in their lungs and stomachs than vaxed people. The vaccine keeps most vaxed people healthy.
Many unvaxed people die. Some never recover. A few vaxed people die when they have another serious medical problem.

 

Guess what?

https://www.ed.ac.uk/usher/elvis-covid-19/about-the-study

Is it a miracle cure? No. Does it cost anything? No. Does it do harm? No.

The link shows what the study sorta is about, but no data or any correlated results are given?
Once you have the symptoms you have already been infected for at least a day, so any new prophylactic measures are useless. The only viable medical prophylactic treatment is vaccine. Masks, isolation, and distancing may reduce your chances of being infected but are not a medically induced prophylaxis with a proven success rate.

 

The link shows what the study sorta is about, but no data or any correlated results are given?
Once you have the symptoms you have already been infected for at least a day, so any new prophylactic measures are useless. The only viable medical prophylactic treatment is vaccine. Masks, isolation, and distancing may reduce your chances of being infected but are not a medically induced prophylaxis with a proven success rate.

It is an ongoing study. The point is to prevent the virus from moving down to your lower respiratory system (bronchi and lungs). It works. There are many other home remedies that help you heal faster but they are not FDA approved

 

And Now for Something Completely Different.

https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/covid-may-cause-restless-anal-syndrome-report-680582

Scientists in Japan have reported a case in which a patient seems to have developed "restless anal syndrome" after suffering from COVID-19, with initial findings indicating that the syndrome may be related to the coronavirus, according to a case report published last week in the BMC Infectious Diseases journal.

https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-021-06683-7

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) has a broad spectrum from respiratory and nasopharyngeal symptoms, cerebrovascular diseases, impaired consciousness, and skeletal muscle injury. Emerging evidence has indicated the neural spread of this novel coronavirus. Restless legs syndrome (RLS) is a common neurological, sensorimotor disorder, but highly under diagnosis disorder. Restless anal syndrome as restless legs syndrome variant associated with COVID-19 has been previously not published. We report a case presenting with restless anal syndrome following COVID-19.

So many reasons to avoid this disease with a shot.

 

There are many other home remedies that help you heal faster but they are not FDA approved

I would love to see some empirical data to back that up?

Viruses are not like ants than crawl on the surface. They move about the body in the serum carried through the blood stream to all parts of the body. Gargling might kill some on the surface of the mouth and pharynx, but it would only be a very small percentage of the whole. Covid enters the body through the moist tissues of the eyes, nasal passages, mouth, pharynx, esophagus, trachea, bronchia, and lung tissue. Only a very small portion of which gargling touches.

 

A lot of posts on here seem to contradict a pinned thread by "beenthere"...

The way it must be is this: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. If you cannot furnish such proof, there is no point in any further discussion at all. We will be more than happy to examine any factual data.

Opinions, no matter how fervently expressed, do not make a case. Videos, however persuasive, do not mean anything at all without the demonstration having taken place in public with qualified experts able to freely examine the device and its set up. Testimonials are simply less than persuasive.

 

The percentage of people hospitalized with Covid-19 depends a lot on the rate of vaccination in a given region. For example, in places where the vaccination rate is very high it might not be too surprising to hear that most patients have been vaccinated. In places where nobody has access to vaccinations it would not be surprising to hear that all patients are un-vaccinated.

Reporting just the raw percentage does not make sense.

Two glaring problems just in the opening shot of that Youtube video.
(some text removed for clarity)

2. it says "breaking news" but yet it's from 4/22/20. How breaking is that?

4/22/20: Yep, that would not be breaking news. It would be broken news.

 

yes vaccine works, to some degree... but it is not 97% or whatever number they claim.
btw. it would be easier to believe that vaccine works as well as some would like to suggest if:
a) all restrictions would be removed for those that are vaccinated, including mask
b) reported stats were realistic. somehow magically there was 0 cases of flue for example, every case is covid. maybe China was right to create and release Covid to fight flu.
c) there was no push for force vaccinations. this is invasive. if you are vaccinated and vaccine works, what is the problem (for you) if the others around you may have the covid?
d) if those pushing for vaccinations were not caught lying over and over again.

 

When the vaccines were finally released there was no delta variant. And that's why there are more breakthrough cases than expected among the vaccinated.
But I bet that the pharmaceuticals have not been idle in that respect, and have been working on upgrading their vaccines to also protect against said variant. I think that most likely those vaccines will be released by the end of 2022, or perhaps before that.

 

The salient point is that the death rate from breakthrough cases is miniscule compared to the death rate when unvaccinated.

When vaccinated, the symptoms are milder and don't last as long. Hospitalization or death among the vaccinated is far less likely.

Without being vaccinated you are spinning a roulette wheel with the possible result being hospitalization or death. The odds of either are not slim.

 

When the vaccines were finally released there was no delta variant. And that's why there are more breakthrough cases than expected among the vaccinated.
But I bet that the pharmaceuticals have not been idle in that respect, and have been working on upgrading their vaccines to also protect against said variant. I think that most likely those vaccines will be released by the end of 2022, or perhaps before that.

Thats the upgrade I need, new conspiracy of my own design and wishful thinking. Self replicating robots, to target and destroy anything human in me thereby creating a Cyborg, maybe in the future I won’t even be dependent on oxygen to survive. lol

May I interject? In post #1 was a question, have we answered it? No, I will however add to the that question with one of my own.

Have we, but of course you’ve already done that in all of the 327 pages. Still to no result, so I lean back on the original.

Is it time to Panic?

kv

 

When the vaccines were finally released there was no delta variant. And that's why there are more breakthrough cases than expected among the vaccinated.
But I bet that the pharmaceuticals have not been idle in that respect, and have been working on upgrading their vaccines to also protect against said variant. I think that most likely those vaccines will be released by the end of 2022, or perhaps before that.

Well, it was said that RNA vaccines are very easy to adjust. Delta variant has been ide tified almost a year ago, so should the vaccine for it not be out already? The way it looks, the scenario is playing out same as with a flu shot, by the time the updated vaccine will be out, it is going to be out dated. As everything going on this is a guess...

No, there is never any need to panic. Stress and anxiety have a negative impact on immune system. This would be the worst time to panic.