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wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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About time.
https://www.lawofficer.com/should-governor-cuomo-be-charged-with-murder/
There are some amazing wonders on our planet. But few things have made us wonder more than how Andrew Cuomo, the Governor of New York still remains in office—especially after his botched handling of COVID-related nursing home deaths…
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Of course, the media has conveniently treated Cuomo like a hero, since he often opposed President Trump. But now things are different: DeRosa has admitted that New York Democrats and other politicians cooked the books—and the COVID-related deaths in nursing homes were even higher.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.kgw.com/article/news/he...ered/283-02cc7512-ac94-41c8-a245-559dc77dc830
PORTLAND, Ore. — While thousands of people are still waiting to get the vaccine, there is a large group not getting it when offered.
According to a report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), about 62% of nursing home workers across the country have not gotten the vaccine.
The CDC looked at more than 11,000 senior living facilities that held one vaccination clinic between mid-December and mid-January. While 78% of residents got the shot, only 37.5% of staff members did.
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It’s not just nursing home workers. Some hospital employees are also declining or refusing the COVID vaccine.
KGW Investigates checked with the major hospital systems in the Portland and found:
  • 30% of 27,000 eligible Providence Health employees declined, said they’d wait or didn’t reply to the offer.
  • 32% of the 4,5000 Salem Health employee declined the vaccine at this time.
A spokesperson for OHSU said they don’t have a number of who refused of declined the vaccine. Kaiser and Legacy Health officials told KGW they don't keep track of how many employees declined the vaccine.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Speaking of this made me think about May 20, 1969. Riots had been going on in Berkeley and on that day Governor Reagan sent in a helicopter to gas the crowd.

http://picturethis.museumca.org/pic...trators-university-california-berkeley-campus

That evening, out east of there I attended the Tuesday night science lecture at Miramonte High School as usual. When the speaker arrived, sorry don’t know who, he didn’t offer much having been gassed that afternoon. I was a junior in high school and really didn’t know much about what was going on but it all made an impression. That lecture series was fantastic besides that one night. They were able to bring famous scientists from over the hill on a weekly basis. Edward Teller presented on one occasion.

And BTW that was the same day of the battle of Hamburger Hill in Vietnam.

Although eventually Reagan signed my diploma from UC San Diego I never did like him, maybe because he raised my fees. And I still don’t.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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His Majesty The Governor of Ohio finally allowed bars and clubs to remain open after the 10:00 PM curfew he imposed. Most were out of business by the time he finally let them open. Plenty of good restaurants and bars lost everything.

Ron
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Canada Extends Ban on Cruise Ships Until at Least 2022

Just got an email from my sister. I asked her to contact our cruise girl as during Jan and or Feb of 2022 I want to cruise the Caribbean again. This time I want to embark in San Diego hit a few Mexico ports then transition the Panama Canal (I love that thing) and then come up the other side eventually disembark in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Our cruise girl was butt deep with literally thousands of cruise cancellations for the summer Alaskan cruises which pass through Canadian waters. The entire season just went to heck. Here is what I fail to understand. These ships do not stop or anything in Canada, they merely pass through Canadian waters enroot to Alaska. Everyday I see more business and commerce destroyed over this COVID. While this will have no effect on my 2022 plans my heart goes out to the thousands who planned Alaska this summer. Booking now there are some good deals to be had and we normally book well in advance. My sister is always ready to join us.

Ron
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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Canada Extends Ban on Cruise Ships Until at Least 2022

Just got an email from my sister. I asked her to contact our cruise girl as during Jan and or Feb of 2022 I want to cruise the Caribbean again. This time I want to embark in San Diego hit a few Mexico ports then transition the Panama Canal (I love that thing) and then come up the other side eventually disembark in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Our cruise girl was butt deep with literally thousands of cruise cancellations for the summer Alaskan cruises which pass through Canadian waters. The entire season just went to heck. Here is what I fail to understand. These ships do not stop or anything in Canada, they merely pass through Canadian waters enroot to Alaska. Everyday I see more business and commerce destroyed over this COVID. While this will have no effect on my 2022 plans my heart goes out to the thousands who planned Alaska this summer. Booking now there are some good deals to be had and we normally book well in advance. My sister is always ready to join us.

Ron
While it is convenient to point finger at Canada, something gets forgotten...

https://cruiseradio.net/the-jones-act-passsenger-vessel-services-act-1886-maritime-law/

As in solution is actually simple - either change the law, or finally force companies to register in their actual country of origin?

Royal Carribean - American incorporated in Liberia
Carnival - British/American incorporated in Panama

Etc

As far as Canada goes, it is in bad shape now lagging in vaccines way behind everyone else as none are made domestically. Economically this decision is bad for British Columbia as cruises bring a lot of money to Victoria, Vancouver and 3 years ago Prince Rupert was starting to get in in the action. I would expect that most people taking the cruises in a year will be Americans and likely vaccinated Americans!?
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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While it is convenient to point finger at Canada, something gets forgotten...

https://cruiseradio.net/the-jones-act-passsenger-vessel-services-act-1886-maritime-law/

As in solution is actually simple - either change the law, or finally force companies to register in their actual country of origin?

Royal Carribean - American incorporated in Liberia
Carnival - British/American incorporated in Panama

Etc

As far as Canada goes, it is in bad shape now lagging in vaccines way behind everyone else as none are made domestically. Economically this decision is bad for British Columbia as cruises bring a lot of money to Victoria, Vancouver and 3 years ago Prince Rupert was starting to get in in the action. I would expect that most people taking the cruises in a year will be Americans and likely vaccinated Americans!?
I am not faulting Canada. Merely further pointing out how this COVID is crippling a global economy.

Here is another example of a screwy law. The C2 "Greyhound" or the E2B "Hawkeye" (same plane different roles) both use Allison T56 engines. The better engine was the Rolls Royce but a law dictated (lobbied of course by Allison) the engines had to be of US manufacture. The fact the Rolls Royce was the better choice mattered not. So nonsense laws like you cited have always been around. Always fun to see where cruise lines are registered. This is why in my view, in the US, all lobbyist should be executed.

Again, absolutely no intent to slam my Canadian neighbors, speaking as a French Chiook myself. My fathers side all migrated down from New Brunswick. :)

Actually cruise ships are interesting in that I meet people from all over the globe. Even those which embark from US ports are a mixed lot. I only mentioned this as a result of our poor cruise girl having to cancel thousands of bookings. Way back in the beginning of this thread I covered a few segments of my sister's Pacific cruise where every port was cancelled and she spent a month and a half floating the Pacific. They were even denied entry into Hawaii including people who lived there and were scheduled to disembark there.

Ron
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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Here is what I fail to understand. These ships do not stop or anything in Canada, they merely pass through Canadian waters enroot to Alaska.
I don’t think that is correct. The application US Federal law REQUIRES that an international stop be made. All Alaskan cruises must stop for disembarkation at a Canadian port.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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I don’t think that is correct. The application US Federal law REQUIRES that an international stop be made. All Alaskan cruises must stop for disembarkation at a Canadian port.
Ah, I see that. They hit Victoria BC going or coming. All US with that exception. When we did it we departed Seattle and I really don't remember Victoria B.C. but apparently it was in there. Strange law? How about ship stops but nobody disembarks? Then continues. All I know is I want Panama Canal in 2022 and this time through it end to end.

Ron
 
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