Here they are opening the schools. Why? Bus drivers, janitors, support staff, cafeteria workers, are out of jobs and the "Poor" children must be fed because their parents can't afford Peanut butter or bread (spent their free allotment all on cable TV and a new car?). Has nothing to do with health (or education) and the teachers are VERY worried about theirs. Oh yes, and the parents are tired of babysitting their children! That's what schools are for.

 

Whoever did that needs some serious therapy.!

Dr. Fauci?

 

hi joey,
Using my photo analysing imaging software of that 'photo' post #3419, shows clearly it has been photo shopped around Dr Fauci's mouth area.
Whoever did that needs some serious therapy.!

E

Fauci admitted his mask was down in that picture (https://www.wsj.com/articles/mask-mischief-11595625179 ). His excuse was dehydration, and he was drinking water. The water bottle doesn't seem to be in his hand. Maybe your Photoshop program has problem?

Here's another new source: https://nypost.com/2020/07/24/anthony-fauci-denies-hypocrisy-after-watching-game-without-mask/

 

I feel bad for all those out of work or struggling to keep their businesses going. Home delivery services are loving coronavirus and have been for some time now.

I work for a company under contract to do trailer maintenance and pull trailers also for one of the major ones. I can tell you there's probably 40 drivers I know of almost wanting to get sick just for some time off. If it weren't for DOT regulations they would probably be working seven days a week. Other than being spread a little thin at times since we don't close down Saturday afternoon and Sunday like we used to it hasn't affected us in the shop much. The boss doesn't want to pay overtime and I'm not complaining. The unemployment system is a bit boogered at the moment, so he won't hire anyone unless he knows they will stick with it.

Normally middle of November to end of December is the busy time, but lately the lot looks worse than it does even then with trailers parked in every nook and cranny they can squeeze them in as they come off the road. If you can handle the heat and can sling boxes there is work for those who want it. Rumor was they want to hire 900 more people inside to deal with it all.

 

Natural experiment...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53576653

 

I am not sure what this sentence means:

The study also found that a large section of people had been infected and survived with no or little symptoms, leading to a low fatality rate in these areas - one in 1,000 to one in 2,000. This also lowers the city-wide death rate from Covid-19.

However, the death rate in the US from "confirmed cases" (JHU data) is 3.4% versus India's 2.2%. Maybe widespread, low-level exposure doesn't completely protect from disease, but lessens the severity. That is not unusual in vaccinated individuals who fail to get scheduled booster shots.

 

 

Looks like another PhotoShop job on Dr. Fauci from 1960.

 

...and no one knows why.

With the notable exception of pharmacists, of course! -- Every thorn has its rose (sic)

TTFN
HP

 

 

https://www.contagionlive.com/news/sweden-response-lockdown-tcell-immunity

 

New York, home to the country's largest school district, will allow all public schools in the state to reopen their doors to students this fall as long as virus transmission rates remain low, a move at odds with other states in the U.S.

"Every region is well below our COVID infection limit, therefore all school districts are authorized to open," New York Governor Andrew Cuomo wrote on Twitter Friday. "If the infection rate spikes, the guidance will change accordingly."

With his announcement, Cuomo stipulated that individual school districts will be responsible for submitting their own plans for the state's education department to review and approve, but most of the state has maintained a coronavirus positivity rate of around 1 percent.

https://www.newsweek.com/new-york-s...ools-reopen-heres-where-second-ranked-1523702

 

https://www.contagionlive.com/news/sweden-response-lockdown-tcell-immunity

The key phase to me is, " Neither clinician advocates for a particular policy, but they emphasize the import of being able to have a free discussion for scientific purposes. "

That is a big part of the problem. There has been no such discussion in the US. That discussion has been cut off by an edict,"We're just following the science." Unfortunately, no one can or has cited the science (i.e., peer reviewed scientifically robust studies) for face masks in particular and quarantine with all of the exceptions that are allowed.

 

The key phase to me is, " Neither clinician advocates for a particular policy, but they emphasize the import of being able to have a free discussion for scientific purposes. "

That is a big part of the problem. There has been no such discussion in the US. That discussion has been cut off by an edict,"We're just following the science." Unfortunately, no one can or has cited the science (i.e., peer reviewed scientifically robust studies) for face masks in particular and quarantine with all of the exceptions that are allowed.

There has been no free discussion anywhere. I would go even further than that. In my province of BC there has been some reopening and people are "mingling" more, especially younger people. The coverage is particularly interesting - COVID cases are on the rise as COVID deaths continue to decline. Try to interpret that...

In a province of 3 million people there are 4 patients in ICUs, 11 hospitilized and untold number of dead businesses as most of the province runs on tourism.

Total confirmed dead is 195 and that is pretty much all nursing homes.

Of course now we are told there is 2 more years of this and that even a vaccine will not help. Live in fear, die in fear. Sounds like a life well lived I guess.

 

There has been no free discussion anywhere. I would go even further than that. In my province of BC there has been some reopening and people are "mingling" more, especially younger people. The coverage is particularly interesting - COVID cases are on the rise as COVID deaths continue to decline. Try to interpret that...

1) More testing
2) Sub-infectious exposures prime the immune system. Infections are not all or none. Just like poisons are not all or none. In the latter, we often see "LD50" meaning the lethal dose that kills 50%. The same criterion exists for infectious diseases, ID50. We don't see that quite as often, but it varies over many orders of magnitude for different agents. Nevertheless, someone who is exposed to a significant number of agents and doesn't get sick will likely show some sort of immune response. That is really not much different than getting an attenuated virus vaccine. It may not prevent the disease 100% (no vaccine does that), but for those who get the disease, it is much milder.

On top of that, we have people whose sickness is so mild that they didn't seek medical attention. And finally, we have more widespread testing of the walking well -- like the Governor of Ohio this past week.

In a province of 3 million people there are 4 patients in ICUs, 11 hospitilized and untold number of dead businesses as most of the province runs on tourism.

Total confirmed dead is 195 and that is pretty much all nursing homes.

Of course now we are told there is 2 more years of this and that even a vaccine will not help. Live in fear, die in fear. Sounds like a life well lived I guess.

I am alarmed and very disappointed in the influence the press has had on raising irrational alarm/panic. Of course, it sells clicks, but at what cost?Today, the US press is reporting about a young child in Georgia (age about 7) who has died from this coronavirus. That is being used as an excuse not to re-open schools. How many children also died from tonsillectomies, bicycle accidents, etc. Should we keep schools closed because children ride their bicycles to and fro? Maybe close schools because kids get strep throats from each other and some die of that too, etc? Kids have always died from infectious diseases. Fortunately, that rate in modern societies is very low. It is always tragic, regardless of the number. But national news during a pandemic? Why? In that age group coronavirus is no worse than seasonal flu.

 

@jpanhalt
Where I'm at they won't even send your kid/a kid home if they have lice. A note is send to the parent and told to keep an eye out for it.
How crazy it that.
Brzrkr

 

@jpanhalt
Where I'm at they won't even send your kid/a kid home if they have lice. A note is send to the parent and told to keep an eye out for it.
How crazy it that.
Brzrkr

Lice are not fleas. They don't cause the plague.

 

1) More testing
2) Sub-infectious exposures prime the immune system. Infections are not all or none. Just like poisons are not all or none. In the latter, we often see "LD50" meaning the lethal dose that kills 50%. The same criterion exists for infectious diseases, ID50. We don't see that quite as often, but it varies over many orders of magnitude for different agents. Nevertheless, someone who is exposed to a significant number of agents and doesn't get sick will likely show some sort of immune response. That is really not much different than getting an attenuated virus vaccine. It may not prevent the disease 100% (no vaccine does that), but for those who get the disease, it is much milder.

On top of that, we have people whose sickness is so mild that they didn't seek medical attention. And finally, we have more widespread testing of the walking well -- like the Governor of Ohio this past week.



I am alarmed and very disappointed in the influence the press has had on raising irrational alarm/panic. Of course, it sells clicks, but at what cost?Today, the US press is reporting about a young child in Georgia (age about 7) who has died from this coronavirus. That is being used as an excuse not to re-open schools. How many children also died from tonsillectomies, bicycle accidents, etc. Should we keep schools closed because children ride their bicycles to and fro? Maybe close schools because kids get strep throats from each other and some die of that too, etc? Kids have always died from infectious diseases. Fortunately, that rate in modern societies is very low. It is always tragic, regardless of the number. But national news during a pandemic? Why? In that age group coronavirus is no worse than seasonal flu.

Agree completely about the coverage. There was the one about dog finally dying from COVID. Well, the dog had leukemia. One only has to know end stage symptoms of leukemia to see how similar they are to COVID. So what did the dog die of? There are cases of vandalism and agression towards visitors. People are turning onto each other and i am wondering if that is actually the end goal as no attention is paid to anything else...

 

On top of that, we have people whose sickness is so mild that they didn't seek medical attention. And finally, we have more widespread testing of the walking well -- like the Governor of Ohio this past week.

We all saw how that played out. He tested positive then tested again with a different test and he tested negative. So what does that say about the so called test methods, especially the first method used? Yet, these numbers are fed into useless "models" to make useless predictions. Talk to six different specialist and end up with three different opinions which are all just that, opinions.

Ron

 

Neck fleeces, also called gaiter masks and often used by runners, were the least effective. In fact, wearing a fleece mask resulted in a higher number of respiratory droplets because the material seemed to break down larger droplets into smaller particles that are more easily carried away with air.

Folded bandanas and knitted masks also performed poorly and did not offer much protection.

https://www.kptv.com/general/resear...d.html#tncms-source=block-contextual-fallback

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083
Abstract
Mandates for mask use in public during the recent COVID-19 pandemic, worsened by global shortage of commercial supplies, have led to widespread use of homemade masks and mask alternatives. It is assumed that wearing such masks reduces the likelihood for an infected person to spread the disease, but many of these mask designs have not been tested in practice. We have demonstrated a simple optical measurement method to evaluate the efficacy of masks to reduce the transmission of respiratory droplets during regular speech. In proof-of-principle studies, we compared a variety of commonly available mask types and observed that some mask types approach the performance of standard surgical masks, while some mask alternatives, such as neck fleece or bandanas, offer very little protection. Our measurement setup is inexpensive and can be built and operated by non-experts, allowing for rapid evaluation of mask performance during speech, sneezing, or coughing.