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cmartinez

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Molson Coors to the rescue:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pennsy...er-delivery-after-plea-goes-viral-2020-04-14/

Pennsylvania native Olive Veronesi was down to her last 12 cans of beer last week — and she went viral asking for more with a cheeky white board message. On Monday, the 93-year-old's plea was answered when 150 cans of Coors Light were delivered to her doorstep.
On a side note... why didn't she ask for Sam Adams, or something a little more sophisticated instead?
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Molson Coors to the rescue:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pennsy...er-delivery-after-plea-goes-viral-2020-04-14/



On a side note... why didn't she ask for Sam Adams, or something a little more sophisticated instead?
I caught that on the morning news, absolutely hysterical. Pennsylvania has some strange laws regarding alcohol sales and during this Corona Virus thing their governor shut down all liquor sales. Think about it, at a time when liquor sales are booming the governor shuts down even the beer docks. Now here we are in Ohio neighboring Pennsylvania so anyone in PA needed to only drive over the state line and in Ohio beer is sold just about everywhere. So as of this morning the governor of Ohio comes out with yet another rule, anyone buying beer or alcohol in an Ohio county bordering Pennsylvania must show proof of residence in Ohio. This just means Pennsylvania residents will need to drive a little deeper into Ohio to buy booze. How stupid can we get plus this was a boom for Ohio beer retailers. :)

Ron
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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I caught that on the morning news, absolutely hysterical. Pennsylvania has some strange laws regarding alcohol sales and during this Corona Virus thing their governor shut down all liquor sales. Think about it, at a time when liquor sales are booming the governor shuts down even the beer docks. Now here we are in Ohio neighboring Pennsylvania so anyone in PA needed to only drive over the state line and in Ohio beer is sold just about everywhere. So as of this morning the governor of Ohio comes out with yet another rule, anyone buying beer or alcohol in an Ohio county bordering Pennsylvania must show proof of residence in Ohio. This just means Pennsylvania residents will need to drive a little deeper into Ohio to buy booze. How stupid can we get plus this was a boom for Ohio beer retailers. :)

Ron
I always thought interstate commerce was of federal jurisdiction.

Things are getting weird...and not in a good way.
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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I always thought interstate commerce was of federal jurisdiction.
Alcohol taxation by states is on top of federal taxes and often problematic when bringing large quantities (more than a couple of liters of spirits) of alcohol from another tax jurisdiction. Often leading to arrest and seizure. It's colloquially called Bootlegging.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Chloroquine: anecdotal evidence, only???

Known anti-viral effect since 2005.

Note: SARS-CoV is a coronavirus.
Actually, it may have been "known" much longer than that.

My daughter's been working her way through "Little House on the Prairie" and is in one of the last few seasons. I sat down to watch TV with her and the episode was about an influenza epidemic that was killing off residents of a gold camp in spades. The irony wasn't lost on any of us. But as we were watching, "Doc Baker" requests all of the quinine that the pharmacy in the nearest city has and explains that it's used to treat malaria but that it's proven to be very effective against influenza.

Now, shows like this (well, okay, just about every show of every type that's ever been made, it seems) seldom care about any kind of accuracy or being faithful to history, logic, plausibility, or the laws of physics. So I'm certainly not going to even consider using this as any kind of evidence that it actually is effective or that they knew this back in the late 1800's. But I think it DOES provide evidence that the screenwriters had heard the claim from somewhere and incorporated it as a plot element in a show that was written in the 1981 to 1983 time frame.

I find it very difficult to believe that they just happened to dream up that particular claim all on their own. Most likely, one of them saw something in the news and put it in -- that's a pretty normal procedure for shows of all kinds because it creates a sense of association and shared experience between the audience and the show simply because a good portion of the viewers will have also recently seen the same news stories. Most shows do this very intentionally and are constantly scouring the headlines for things they can incorporate -- some are even super blatant about it and tout, "Ripped from the Headlines" in their commercials for such episodes.

Now, if they DID dream it up over beer one night, then the reverse explanation could become more credible -- that some charlatan (back in 2005?) saw that episode with their daughter and saw an opportunity to perpetrate a fraud. Whether the folks supporting today are knowingly doing the same or just unwitting dupes is a different matter.
 

SamR

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I thought bootlegging was the avoidance of taxes.
If I buy booze in Florida which has lower taxes and take it to Georgia which has higher state taxes on alcohol it is bootlegging. Was a big deal ~40 years ago on I-95 but haven't heard of any recent arrests for it. Seems Florida went up on alcohol taxes so it's no longer such a deal to buy at Jax Liquors these days to bring back to GA. Was also a big deal on cigarettes. Buying (sometimes by the truckload) in NC which had no state tobacco tax and taking to other states.
 

shortbus

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ennsylvania has some strange laws regarding alcohol sales and during this Corona Virus thing their governor shut down all liquor sales. Think about it, at a time when liquor sales are booming the governor shuts down even the beer docks. Now here we are in Ohio neighboring Pennsylvania so anyone in PA needed to only drive over the state line and in Ohio beer is sold just about everywhere.
They say that is why Mahoning county is the highest rate of death due to Covid. A friend that has 2 drive thrus in town said people from Pennsylvania were buying beer and wine by the car full.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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They say that is why Mahoning county is the highest rate of death due to Covid. A friend that has 2 drive thrus in town said people from Pennsylvania were buying beer and wine by the car full.
Only logical. I know people who live in Cincinnati down on the Ohio River and the Kentucky border. Kentucky has lower prices so plenty of Ohioians cross the river to make booze runs. When buying a few bottles it isn't much but when a group goes in together they spend a few grand on booze it adds up. Kathy and I live here in Cuyahoga County with the highest sales taxes in the state. When Kathy was working before she retired she worked over the county line and very conveniently would do all the major shopping outside this county. Over a year's time it added up.

Ron
 

shortbus

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Only logical. I know people who live in Cincinnati down on the Ohio River and the Kentucky border. Kentucky has lower prices so plenty of Ohioians cross the river to make booze runs.
Works the same way here. Usually people go to PA to get the booze for weddings and parties. Or did, the tax was less in Pa. Same way with clothing no tax on that in PA or didn't use to be, people from work would go shopping for back to school clothes across the border.
 

wayneh

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Definitely NOT an unintended consequence, since any boob - even a politician - can predict it. It's citizens doing what their government is encouraging them to do.
 

Reloadron

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Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer seems to be increasing her stay at home and increasing mandates as her constituents are starting to get restless with some calling for her head. This gets complicated as some figured, including maybe her that Joe Biden would call on her as a running mate. If Biden does and hopes to carry Michigan she had best keep her people happy, not a good time to have them calling for her head. This could get good. :)

Ron
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer seems to be increasing her stay at home and increasing mandates as her constituents are starting to get restless with some calling for her head. This gets complicated as some figured, including maybe her that Joe Biden would call on her as a running mate. If Biden does and hopes to carry Michigan she had best keep her people happy, not a good time to have them calling for her head. This could get good. :)

Ron
https://reason.com/2020/04/13/michi...te-gatherings-will-still-allow-lottery-sales/
Some of the levers at Whitmer's disposal appear to be ineffective at best and draconian at worst. Her directive forbids the in-store sale of paint, outdoor goods, and other allegedly nonessential items. (Home improvement stores can remain open, but they have to tape off those sections from customers.) It shuts down lawncare services.

"You can't go visit your friends. You can't buy seeds…but you can sneak out and buy lottery tickets," 88-year-old Hal Hughes told The Detroit Free Press. "I don't understand it, unless it's hypocritical greed."
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Reloadron

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Go figure. While my lawn is far from a perfectly manicured plot I try to maintain it. I finally ordered weed & feed and sun/shade seed online. Those aisles are roped off in my local stores. Looks like the picture. I thing a good percentage of people are simply getting fed up which will lead to some short tempers which will lead to... Americans are not accustomed to being stuck in their own homes.

Ron
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Go figure. While my lawn is far from a perfectly manicured plot I try to maintain it. I finally ordered weed & feed and sun/shade seed online. Those aisles are roped off in my local stores. Looks like the picture. I thing a good percentage of people are simply getting fed up which will lead to some short tempers which will lead to... Americans are not accustomed to being stuck in their own homes.

Ron
Lawn care products, maybe overkill in restrictions but food plants? That seems totally counterproductive.

 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://apnews.com/68a9e1b91de4ffc166acd6012d82c2f9
That delay from Jan. 14 to Jan. 20 was neither the first mistake made by Chinese officials at all levels in confronting the outbreak, nor the longest lag, as governments around the world have dragged their feet for weeks and even months in addressing the virus.

But the delay by the first country to face the new coronavirus came at a critical time — the beginning of the outbreak. China’s attempt to walk a line between alerting the public and avoiding panic set the stage for a pandemic that has infected more than 2 million people and taken more than 128,000 lives.

“This is tremendous,” said Zuo-Feng Zhang, an epidemiologist at the University of California, Los Angeles. “If they took action six days earlier, there would have been much fewer patients and medical facilities would have been sufficient. We might have avoided the collapse of Wuhan’s medical system.”
Remember who lit the match.
 
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