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nsaspook

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https://www.texastribune.org/2021/04/14/texas-coronavirus-mask-order-abbott/

More than a month has passed since Gov. Greg Abbott ended virtually all statewide restrictions related to the coronavirus pandemic. Nationwide, new coronavirus cases are on the rise as new variants of the virus spread. And about four-fifths of Texans are not yet fully vaccinated.

But at least for now, the most dire predictions of a new major wave of cases in Texas have not come true, prompting a mix of theories from public health experts.

Those experts caution that a major increase in cases could still come and it may still be too early to tell whether Abbott’s decisions to lift the statewide mask mandate and allow businesses to fully reopen could prompt a new wave of infections. Still, daily new cases and the positivity rate have leveled off over the past month, while deaths and hospitalization have gone down substantially.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Some people will not be happy until they have finished destroying an economy. Note that those making these decisions and enforcing these decisions are not affected in the least and there is no effect on their pensions. I remember martial law in the Philippines. I guess if you live in the Province of Ottawa you are pretty much screwed. People are watching their rights be usurped and their small businesses (livelihood) destroyed.

Ron
 

xox

Joined Sep 8, 2017
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The nation’s top infectious disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, was asked in a TV interview last week about Texas’ numbers and gave an uncertain response about what was driving them at the moment. Speaking with MSNBC, he said “it can be confusing because you may see a lag and a delay because often you have to wait a few weeks before you see the effect of what you’re doing right now.”

“We’ve been fooled before by situations where people begin to open up, nothing happens and then all of a sudden, several weeks later, things start exploding on you,” Fauci said. “So we’ve got to be careful we don’t prematurely judge that.”

(...)

Fauci has said herd immunity against the coronavirus could require as much as 90% of the population to be vaccinated.

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The experts, though, are pleading with the public to still take the pandemic seriously, even as the numbers look good and the statewide restrictions fall further in to the rearview.

“If we don’t focus — and all we’re asking for is two more months … — we’re really gonna lose all that ground we gained,” Ostrosky said.
People have grown tired of all the fear-mongering. Good for Governor Abbott for using ACTUAL science to guide the state's health policies!
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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I dont usually go for Toronto Sun, but they discussed lack of cost/benefit consideration for lockdown measures back in January. I havent really seen this elsewhere

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colu...down-harms-are-10-times-greater-than-benefits
I think one of the greatest "costs" is the spread of the idea that every citizen should look to their government for guidance. That's an awful mindset and lives will be lost because of it. Government can't save you from floods, hurricanes or earthquakes. Or pandemics or bad lifestyle choices. Indeed government exacerbates all these problems in many cases when they take stupid actions under the guise of having good intentions.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Some people will not be happy until they have finished destroying an economy. Note that those making these decisions and enforcing these decisions are not affected in the least and there is no effect on their pensions. I remember martial law in the Philippines. I guess if you live in the Province of Ottawa you are pretty much screwed. People are watching their rights be usurped and their small businesses (livelihood) destroyed.

Ron
I'm glad the Ottawa cops up there pushed back on that just like most of the local cops here did when handed unenforceable rules from state governament.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...-random-stops-amid-covid-19-surge-2021-04-17/

Police in cities across Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, on Saturday refused to make random stops greenlighted by the provincial government seeking to impose a stay-at-home order amid a surge in COVID-19 cases.
I was in PI under martial law too and did shore patrol with the locals to enforce the mid-night curfew outside the base. The provost Marshal cops carried Thomson Machine guns so the LAW was what they said it was.
 

nsaspook

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https://www.kptv.com/general/half-o...cle_aeafefad-5fbf-5b50-a1a0-e95a34dbdccc.html

Half of all adults in the U.S. have received at least one COVID-19 shot, the government announced Sunday, marking another milestone in the nation’s largest-ever vaccination campaign but leaving more work to do to convince skeptical Americans to roll up their sleeves.

Almost 130 million people 18 or older have received at least one dose of a vaccine, or 50.4% of the total adult population, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported. Almost 84 million adults, or about 32.5% of the population, have been fully vaccinated.

The U.S. cleared the 50% mark for adults just a day after the reported global death toll from the coronavirus topped a staggering 3 million, according to totals compiled by Johns Hopkins University, though the actual number is believed to be significantly higher.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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I'm glad the Ottawa cops up there pushed back on that just like most of the local cops here did when handed unenforceable rules from state government.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...-random-stops-amid-covid-19-surge-2021-04-17/



I was in PI under martial law too and did shore patrol with the locals to enforce the mid-night curfew outside the base. The provost Marshal cops carried Thomson Machine guns so the LAW was what they said it was.
Yeah, but with any luck you were where you were going before midnight. :) The Provost Marshall cops took their jobs serious. Fond memories. Knew you had time in grade in the PI. :)

On a side note, locally here in Ohio about 25% of the population has been vaccinated. The first shot numbers are higher of course. I have reached the point where I no longer pay much attention but I see no shortage of small businesses now gone forever. Damn shame too on that note. Picked up a prescription yesterday at the Rite Aid Pharmacy and there was a line for shots. A normally empty parking lot was also packed where they were giving out shots.

As to Fauci? Attention whore.

Ron
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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Utah and Vaccinations, but it shows the U.S. as well. Right now 35% one dose, 16% fully.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/state/utah

Got mine yesterday, didn’t even feel it. We could run into a shortage, hopefully they get that worked out. I need a second dose of Moderna, so far so good.

I’ll still practice social distancing, because for me just safer regardless if I get both.


kv
 

DickCappels

Joined Aug 21, 2008
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Just when things sound dark and hopeless, remember we heard all this before with the H1-N1 Bird Flu epidemic. It did not take long for it to fade into the background, but this time around might be different because the marketeers now understand the game they are playing.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/19/cov...it-record-levels-despite-vaccine-rollout.html
A study published by the University of Chile earlier this month reported that CoronaVac was 56.5% effective two weeks after the second doses were administered in the country. Crucially, however, they also reported that one dose was only 3% effective.

“This would help to explain why Chile — with one of the world’s most robust vaccine rollouts but 93% of the doses coming from China — has experienced a simultaneous significant expansion in cases, and a much slower decline in hospitalizations and deaths compared to the early rollouts in Israel, the United Kingdom and the United States,” Ian Bremmer, president of risk consultancy Eurasia Group, said in a research note.
Bad vaccines are not going to stop this wave of the pandemic.
 
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