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SamR

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This "Possible, Maybe it could become, Pandemic" is reminiscent of the furor over tourists being possibly murdered in their hotel rooms while on vacation in the Dominican Republic. It was the leading news story for about a month. An American Congressman sicced the FBI onto it. The DR vigorously denied it. Then one intelligent reporter sat down and did the math and discovered it was not an anomaly at all. It was well within the bounds of normal occurrence, the FBI found nothing, the DR pointedly said "I told you so", and it quickly faded away while the new Cause De Jour took its place.
 

atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
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Yesterday we got our 1st confirmed case in Bs. Aires. Passenger coming from Italy.

Those who do not die, do develope any kind of antibodies?
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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Those who do not die, do develope any kind of antibodies?
It's too early to tell. I read a report that someone had to be treated twice. Either she wasn't actually recovered, or she caught it again.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-catches-coronavirus-twice-confirming-21587251

Hopefully your government was more prepared than the US. We don't have the ability to do as much testing as South Korea. If our government had been more responsible, they would have anticipated the need and gotten ahead of the curve. They didn't do that, so now we're under reporting cases because we can't test for them. There's also a cost to people who go for testing. I've read reports of people being charged $3000 (in addition to what their insurance will cover).

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/health-care/article240476806.html

The government is saying that people on Medicare/Medicaid may not have all expenses paid.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...althcare-for-coronavirus-patients/ar-BB10F4fs

All of the US deaths (9) are from one state. Most are from a nursing home and the death rate among the elderly is high. That could be because they have other health issues or they're just frail from old age.

EDIT: Add link for the US death toll:
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-update...us-infections-latest-news-updates-2020-03-03/

If people have to pay for coronavirus testing, some won't get tested if they have to pay thousands of dollars out of pocket.
 
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SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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I think that was the woman that was released from quarantine after testing negative 2 times. Then after being released she was tested again and had a "weak positive" whatever that means.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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The government is saying that people on Medicare/Medicaid may not have all expenses paid.
Medicare on most services only covers 80% with the balance being on the patient. This is why even after retirement and going on Medicare people also have a supplemental insurance plan. While I have no clue how Medicaid works since obviously you can't collect money from those who don't have any but I would think Medicare would cover 80% of cost for diagnosis and treatment. Very few things that Medicare covers 100%.

Ron
 

dl324

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Medicare on most services only covers 80% with the balance being on the patient.
The deductible/copay isn't the issue. This is (from the article referenced):
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I have Plan G, so I only have to pay the Part B deductible. The Part A deductible and copays would be paid by my supplemental insurance.

If they won't cover some "services", people on Medicare will have to pay for 100% of the uncovered services out of pocket.
 
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shortbus

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Those who do not die, do develope any kind of antibodies?
Don't people get the regular flu over and over again? It's my understanding that the virus mutates from one season to the next to find new receptors in the body, that's why there is a new flu vaccine every year, to keep up with the changes in the virus.
 

shortbus

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Hopefully your government was more prepared than the US.
It was only one person in the government that was responsible for that.

And for the snowflakes that can't stand to hear this is true this statement is verifiable and not meant as political. You know who you are.
 

dl324

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Medical professionals are trying to understand why children aren't getting severe symptoms from COVID-19. One theory is that they haven't been exposed to similar viruses and they don't have antibodies that are causing the body to overreact.

Read it on Smartnews and don't have a URL handy.
 

402DF855

Joined Feb 9, 2013
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Some viruses do not produce antibodies so there can be no immunization. ie Aids!
I don't think this is accurate. I'd guess an AIDS test looks for the antibodies but could be wrong. I think that in most cases the individual's immune response is insufficient at eliminating the virus, but it tries.
One theory is that they haven't been exposed to similar viruses and they don't have antibodies that are causing the body to overreact.
OK this concerns me specifically. I took 4 trips to Beijing in 2004 and I may have contracted SARS. I had no fever but a case of bronchitis that had me drowning in phlegm.
 

dl324

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