Burning up 2n2222 trans

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ulms

Joined Mar 19, 2024
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Hello

A search on Google couldn't get me an answer. I need to switch two and a half amps at five volts. The 2n2222's are failing. What's the next size up so to speak transistor that might handle that?

Thanks
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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In the TO-220 maybe something like the TIP31C, NPN, 100V, 3A, 40W, MEDIUM POWER SWITCHING with a hefty heat sink is just marginal for 2.5A continuous but within spec. Maybe a power MOSFET in the TO-220 like the IRF510, MOSFET, 5.6A, 100V, 0.540 Ohm, N-Channel Power? Also, with a hefty heat sink and same for any TO-220 to dissipate heat from that kind of power through them. Someone here should be able to put a finer point on it.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Hello

A search on Google couldn't get me an answer. I need to switch two and a half amps at five volts. The 2n2222's are failing. What's the next size up so to speak transistor that might handle that?

Thanks
A quick look at the data sheet explains the issue:
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The absolute max collector current is 800 mA. Try to switch 2.5 A with it and it's not surprising that you are letting the magic smoke out.

Instead of trying to get Google to tell you the answer, use Google to look up the data sheet for the part of interest and then look in the data sheet for the answers you seek.

As for finding other alternatives, a good place to start is using the product selector tools at places like DigiKey or Mouser.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Well a 2N2222 NPN transistor has a max current of 800 mA or 0.8 Amp and you are switching 2.5 Amps. No clue what you are trying to do but if possible my first choice would be a N Channel logic level MOSFET. Please better define your project.

Thank you WBahn for the data sheet.

Ron
 

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ulms

Joined Mar 19, 2024
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Well a 2N2222 NPN transistor has a max current of 800 mA or 0.8 Amp and you are switching 2.5 Amps. No clue what you are trying to do but if possible my first choice would be a N Channel logic level MOSFET. Please better define your project.

Thank you WBahn for the data sheet.

Ron
Hi, I'm switching 1.3 amps. Just wanted some overate.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Hi, I'm switching 1.3 amps. Just wanted some overate.
That's good, and a factor of two is a reasonable starting point. Of course, that means that your actual current is still nearly twice what the transistors are rated for.
 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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I need to switch two and a half amps at five volts. The 2n2222's are failing.
It always amazes me when someone tries to use a component where the data sheets limits are severely exceeded (by a factor of over 3 here).
Why did you not read the data sheet where it says the max 2N222's collector current is 800mA?

Note that a BJT requires a control base current of 1/10 of the collector current to turn on with minimum voltage drop, so that would be 130mA for a 1.3A load.

To reduce the control current to zero with low power dissipation, use a logic-level type MOSFET as a switch with an on-resistance of <0.1Ω, which will keep the dissipation well below 1W, so it won't require a heatsink.
 
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ulms

Joined Mar 19, 2024
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It always amazes me when someone tries to use a component where the data sheets limits are severely exceeded (by a factor of over 3 here).
Why did you not read the data sheet where it says the max 2N222's collector current is 800mA?

Note that a BJT requires a control base current of 1/10 of the collector current to turn on with minimum voltage drop, so that would be 130mA for a 1.3A load.

To reduce the control current to zero with low power dissipation, use a logic-level type MOSFET as a switch with an on-resistance of <0.1Ω, which will keep the dissipation well below 1W, so it won't require a heatsink.
I was in a pinch and wanted to keep the project momentum going. I was well aware of the 800ma limitation and the 50 cent transistors did last long enough to prove the circuit out. I ordered what Samr suggested. Today I'll put two in parallel I was in a rush yesterday, my girl calling me up from the basement to mow the lawn and all.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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How are you planning to drive the TIP31C transistor? I hope whatever you plan has the available drive current.

Note that a BJT requires a control base current of 1/10 of the collector current to turn on with minimum voltage drop, so that would be 130mA for a 1.3A load.
Initially you mentioned:

I need to switch two and a half amps at five volts.
You also want to handle a stall current if you are driving a motor. Anyway a 1.3 amp load will need about a 130 mA base drive current. If you plan to use a uC like an Arduino you better start thinking MOSFET, like a FQP30N06L or similar.

Ron
 
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dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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I was well aware of the 800ma limitation and the 50 cent transistors did last long enough to prove the circuit out.
Apparently you didn't understand what the absolute maximum rating meant.

From OnSem 2N2222A datasheeti:
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Some datasheets go further and state that devices might not survive the absolute maximums.
 

BobaMosfet

Joined Jul 1, 2009
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Hello

A search on Google couldn't get me an answer. I need to switch two and a half amps at five volts. The 2n2222's are failing. What's the next size up so to speak transistor that might handle that?

Thanks
What you're looking for is an IRLZ44N. Logic level FET that can handle the current.
 

schmitt trigger

Joined Jul 12, 2010
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From the “burn the transistor first, ask questions later” school of thought.
It is a common mistake that many rookies make. I certainly smoked a few components myself in the early days.
But one has to learn quickly from the mistake. And an essential knowledge is how to read datasheets.
I know, I know. At first all that information may be overwhelming. But if one wants to design anything beyond an Arduino flashing an LED, reading and understanding datasheets is a must.
 

BobaMosfet

Joined Jul 1, 2009
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Learning mosfets, is that a whole new ball game? I barely have a handle on bpj's. Thank for the above info.
In this vein, using a Mosfet is superior because you use voltage to switch current with a MosFET, not current to switch current (like a BJT). How much current a device handles is a function of how hot it's internals (junction temperature) can get (and be dissipated). Use a heatsink.
 
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