Broken part on a PCB.

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Now that we know exactly (or close) to what the part is and what the application is, we can also know that the exact inductance is not so critical Probably a few drops of glue or epoxy to prevent vibration will be a good idea.
Advice without understanding the application may not be helpful at all, which is why we ask questions.
 

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Hatem-Eg

Joined Jan 4, 2024
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Now that we know exactly (or close) to what the part is and what the application is, we can also know that the exact inductance is not so critical Probably a few drops of glue or epoxy to prevent vibration will be a good idea.
Advice without understanding the application may not be helpful at all, which is why we ask questions.
Ok thank you so much , sorry my bad had to mention the purpose of this circuit and where does it work
The new one I posted earlier found it in online store after you told me what this component is and its value , 10 paces are less than 1$ , if this one is exactly the same type I go buy it better
But I'm not sure what is "SMD" is and "CD43" written besides its name
Kindly please confirm for me its the same component and I will go for it , here is the link and the pic of it, thank you ...
https://www.amazon.eg/-/en/Power-Inductor-100uH-5x4x3mm-10pcs/dp/B09HCQ9PQ9
 

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MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Ok thank you so much , sorry my bad had to mention the purpose of this circuit and where does it work
The new one I posted earlier found it in online store after you told me what this component is and its value , 10 paces are less than 1$ , if this one is exactly the same type I go buy it better
But I'm not sure what is "SMD" is and "CD43" written besides its name
Kindly please confirm for me its the same component and I will go for it , here is the link and the pic of it, thank you ...
https://www.amazon.eg/-/en/Power-Inductor-100uH-5x4x3mm-10pcs/dp/B09HCQ9PQ9
OK, "SMD" means Surface Mount DEvice, which is the alternative to THD "Thru Hole Device", which has some sort of leads that go thru the PCB.
I am guessing that CD43 is a package style, which I am not able to provide more details. But since some dimensions are given then you can compare with the one on your board assembly.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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One has pins and the SMD does not have pins for mounting so if yours has pins through the board you want the other one not the SMD version.

Ron
 

Mullins

Joined Dec 31, 2021
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@Hatem-Eg just put it on the car and report. if its not working remove the same components from a scraped car. if you have problem with steering angle sensor check 4 optocouple on the right.
 

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Hatem-Eg

Joined Jan 4, 2024
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OK, "SMD" means Surface Mount DEvice, which is the alternative to THD "Thru Hole Device", which has some sort of leads that go thru the PCB.
I am guessing that CD43 is a package style, which I am not able to provide more details. But since some dimensions are given then you can compare with the one on your board assembly.
The one on store is almost the half size of the broken one , does it matter ?
Still option B on the table ( glue ir epoxy )
if there is will be defrences in power or somthing else.

One has pins and the SMD does not have pins for mounting so if yours has pins through the board you want the other one not the SMD version.

Ron
No there is no Hole on the board since its double face circuit board , then I guess it's SMD type .
 

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Hatem-Eg

Joined Jan 4, 2024
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@Hatem-Eg just put it on the car and report. if its not working remove the same components from a scraped car. if you have problem with steering angle sensor check 4 optocouple on the right.
Will try the epoxy to fill the missed part if the new one I posted from the store doesn't match on its value due to the size is not the same

It's a module inside the gear shifter
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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While I don't see the SMD pads like the pads of some surrounding components I don't see through board holes either. If you remove the old it has pins or it doesn't. Best guess on my part. Hopefully someone else will chime in. :)

Ron
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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In order to remove SMD components you have to melt all solder joints at the same time.
If there are only two solder pads, then you need two soldering irons to melt both pads at the same time.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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In order to remove SMD components you have to melt all solder joints at the same time.
If there are only two solder pads, then you need two soldering irons to melt both pads at the same time.
I should correct what I posted. Removing I have used a single soldering pencil. One hand apply heat, other hand pry one side of component up gently. Then move to other side and remove I am not concerned with a damaged component. Now, replacing is another story and where I use hot air. While removal is a pain with a pencil I have done it.

Ron
 

daba1955

Joined Apr 27, 2019
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No it has no effect on fit or function. If you are worried about it wrap some tape around making a form and pour some epoxy resin in to fill the form. When the resin sets up remove the tape. Unless the coil is damaged no, the broken plastic changes nothing.

Ron
That is not plastic - it's ferrite material and forms part of the magnetic circuit. Yes it will have a detrimental effect, but I don't believe it has much as some might believe. Most of the inductance will be in the core, which is still intact. Probably the "flanges" are there to hold the wires more than form part of the magnetic flux circuit.

I would say if the board is still working, leave it alone...
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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That is not plastic - it's ferrite material and forms part of the magnetic circuit. Yes it will have a detrimental effect, but I don't believe it has much as some might believe. Most of the inductance will be in the core, which is still intact. Probably the "flanges" are there to hold the wires more than form part of the magnetic flux circuit.

I would say if the board is still working, leave it alone...
I know the ferrite but wasn't it originally encapsulated in plastic? My bad on that note and the original image posted was not actually the thread starter's image but I guess an example. Yes, as to the ferrite I agree and my view was simple, does it work? Yes, then don't worry about it, No then remove and replace it.

Ron
 

Mullins

Joined Dec 31, 2021
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Probably the problem is solved now. But from experience I always find the welds created. Probably because of the vibrations or the excursion ends. I was wondering how they make the pieces For aerospace? Increased vibration and temperature range.
 
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