Automotive restoration

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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Just picked some up 2 days ago. I paid $130 for 2 quarts of POR15. Only in my 20s when I paid for liquor by the shot with a tip, did I ever pay so much for any kind of fluid per volume.
That's pretty sad. Hopefully you'll have a chance to enjoy some top-shelf options after the kids finish college.
 

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strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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Just be aware that Por15 isn't UV resistant and needs a top coat. And if you think that is expensive wait until get into the body paint. The days of painting a vehicle for $100 in the back yard are over.
I am prepared, sorta. I'm expecting the bill of materials to be no less than $1k. I am however going to do a bit of research into using Rustoleum Professional (thinned and sprayed with a gun, not rattlecan) with a clearcoat over it. I've used Rustoleum Professional in rattle cans for everything. It's great paint, haven't seen it fade much on things I applied it on. Saw youtube video of someone painting their car with it and it looked pretty good actually, but not sure how long it would last though.
If you use a catalized paint be sure to use the correct mask. I spent a week in the hospital after painting one of my old Harley's using the wrong mask, chemical pneumonia from the isocyanate, basically super glue that is the hardener. With that type of pneumonia you just have to wait out the lung interior surfaces to slough off and grow back, no fun.
Oh my! I will be sure to check. Thanks for the warning!
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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You might want to check into an Earl Scheib paint job. They used to do a good paint top coat job. But if you go that way do all the prep yourself like pulling the trim and working out any dents or rust. That stuff is where they don't do such a good job. And they actually use auto grade paint.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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You might want to check into an Earl Scheib paint job. They used to do a good paint top coat job. But if you go that way do all the prep yourself like pulling the trim and working out any dents or rust. That stuff is where they don't do such a good job. And they actually use auto grade paint.
Even a bad paint booth is better than painting in a back yard. Pollen, insects, dust from a gravel road or neighbor cutting grass or using a leaf blower will leave a really crappy clear coat.
 

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strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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Yesterday: pressure washed grease, dirt, loose rust and loose paint off the frame.

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Today: painted frame with POR15, removed front grill, bumper, trim, etc. in preparation for painting.
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Tomorrow: start sanding and popping/filling dents
 
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MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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I know they tend to fall off and rattle but you might want to replace the heat shields that are missing because they are going to char the POR-15 and crack and peel.
 

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strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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Even a bad paint booth is better than painting in a back yard. Pollen, insects, dust from a gravel road or neighbor cutting grass or using a leaf blower will leave a really crappy clear coat.
I am contemplating moving it into my shop to paint it. I am worried about overspray getting on other stuff but just as worried about the things you mentioned. Any time I've ever painted something I cared about (outside) a bug has landed in it. I suppose I could cordon off a part of the shop with plastic sheet. Will have to do something for ventilation though.

I know they tend to fall off and rattle but you might want to replace the heat shields that are missing because they are going to char the POR-15 and crack and peel.
I actually don't think anything is missing from the exhaust apart from the muffler hanger that's broken off. But it may not be a bad idea to add some heat shields even if GM didn't think they were necessary, they obviously made some bad choices.
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shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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Pollen, insects, dust from a gravel road or neighbor cutting grass or using a leaf blower will leave a really crappy clear coat.
That's why I suggested a Schieb paint job. The other one was when Strantor said he was thinking of Rustoleum. You can't "color sand" or buff Rustoleum or other hardware store paints since they are enamels. you need to add a catalyst to enamels to harden them so they can be buffed. That evens means color sanding to remove orange peel too.

@strantor how does your daughter like the Por15 tattoos? That stuff take a few days to wash off if you don't get it with thinner while still wet.
 

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strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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That's why I suggested a Schieb paint job. The other one was when Strantor said he was thinking of Rustoleum. You can't "color sand" or buff Rustoleum or other hardware store paints since they are enamels. you need to add a catalyst to enamels to harden them so they can be buffed. That evens means color sanding to remove orange peel too.

@strantor how does your daughter like the Por15 tattoos? That stuff take a few days to wash off if you don't get it with thinner while still wet.
We didn't have any of the special thinner but were able to wash it off with gasoline as long as it was still fresh.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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Is it internally friendly?:) Don't know how much of it I've swallowed in my lifetime when siphoning gas. And I'm 74.
In your youth, gasoline was pretty low in BTX (benzene toluene and xylenes). You should be ok. Back then, tetraethyl Lead was the preferred anti-knock additive.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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Back when I was 17 (1981 to be precise), I accidentally swallowed some gas while siphoning it from a tank while working in a farm in Ohio ... I swear I kept on burping the nasty stuff for almost a week after that.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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Back when I was 17 (1981 to be precise), I accidentally swallowed some gas while siphoning it from a tank while working in a farm in Ohio ... I swear I kept on burping the nasty stuff for almost a week after that.
And what did you learn that day (week)?
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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Learnt lesson: Next time use a longer hose ...
A longer hose is one solution.
- a clear hose would have helped
- using a siphon bulb would have been safer
- various planning and fluid management plans could have helped

most importantly, at 17, I would have thought, if I go to college and learn something, I can do something besides siphoning gas on a farm in Ohio.
 

gerty

Joined Aug 30, 2007
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Looks like you have most of this already figured out, and the fact that you're taking your daughter on this project will be something she can look back on in her memories. More fathers should do stuff like this, in today's world it is a welcome project....
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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In your youth, gasoline was pretty low in BTX (benzene toluene and xylenes).
Most cars today you can't even siphon from. They have a "check ball" that won't allow the hose in. The ball acts like a check valve in a roll over.

I swear I kept on burping the nasty stuff for almost a week after that.....
Actually, I went to Purdue after that
Wow C, you got pretty great mileage!!! :)

My favorite gas siphoning clip.
 
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