Some do. Most don't.

I don't know the count; I do know there are lots of Hindus in the world.

 

I don't kill bugs intentionally nor do I use any devices aimed for doing so.

Do you drive your car slowly at night so as to not kill those who fly in front of you?

 

They died because of their actions not because of mine.

 

I've been reading the posts of most of the commenters here for several years now.

I don't think there is any malice. And there is no shortage of intellect.

We are of different generations and cultures.

I'm quite sure some of my actions and lifestyle upsets some.

And I'm sure some of yours does too. I guarantee it.

 

They died because of their actions not because of mine.

Now, you're rationalizing. You could have stayed home and maybe saved thousands. Weren't those lives worth more than your trip to the store?

BTW, I hope you realize I am being somewhat facetious in an effort to demonstrate that your opinion (and mine) can be wrong.

 

The difference is I don't kill them for fun. I support hunting for food as long its done professionally and with respect, I will never support hunting as a "sport".

 

don't kill bugs intentionally nor do I use any devices aimed for doing so.

How about viruses, bacteria, parasites and bad bugs? If you ever take medicine, you are likely to have killed billions of those little guys.

How about indirect killing? Medicine is often tested on animals. And sometimes humen. Your demand for medicine has contributed to their death.

Or that tiny earthworm and her family that used to live on the ground that's now a car factory, a shopping mall, a highway or an apartment complex that you live in. Your own existed contributed to their demise.

Does that count as your killing?

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It takes a curosry and honest loom around you to understand what a huge negative impact your life has on those that cannot speak their voice.

 

And I'm sure some of yours does too. I guarantee it.

Absolutely. The key is to recognize that we are all different people and as such, it is immoral for us to project our morality onto others.

 

I have no problem with killing something that's trying to harm me. White rhino didn't go extinct because people built a car factory, it went extinct because of human stupidity and greed. Indirect and direct killing can't be put in same bucket(both are bad) since then people would be in prison for driving a car.

 

Then I guess the stories of what we use to do as kids is out. According to modern psychology, we were all psychopaths and serial killers.

We do so much better raising our kids now.

 

I have no problem with killing something that's trying to harm me

So you did intentionally kill things in the past and are comfortable killing things intentionally in the future.

That clearly contradicts your prior statement of not killing things intentionally.

The only difference between you and the incident cited by the OP is that you think your intentionally killing is justified and you don't think his intentionally killing is not.

Have you thought about the possibility that the subject in the ops article thinks his intentionally killing is justified as well?

If it is OK for you to intentionally kill something, wouldn't it be OK for others to intentionally kill something as well?

Did you sense an irony or your hypocracy here?

If not, maybe you should condemn your intentional killing as well.

 

Indirect and direct killing can't be put in same bucket(

So you would argue that it is OK for us to buy rhino heads from poachers but not for us to kill rhinos for their heads?

Really???

 

Word twisting much? I have no problem with killing something that's trying to harm me. Bear didn't harm him.

 

Word twisting much? I have no problem with killing something that's trying to harm me.

Sounds like you are moving the goal post here. Your original statement never mentioned the 'trying to harm me' part.

But let's play with that. Medicines have side effects. Antibiotics are often broad spectrum. Or they kill bad bugs (which you are ok) and also good bugs.

So you are OK with killing the good or even innocent bugs just so you can kill the bad bugs?

 

Most of them.

Do you actually believe that most people who hunt won't eat "mass-produced" meat?

I would love to see something that substantiates that notion.

The overwhelming majority of hunters go hunting (usually deer or similar -- I'm leaving bird hunting out of it) once every few years and most times they go hunting they come back with nothing to show for it. Even hunters that go every year and actually bring down game every year are unlikely to harvest enough meat to feed themselves (and their families) for an entire year. Certainly there are markets for non-"mass produced meat", but they are no where near big enough to provide meat for "most" of the tens of millions of hunters (in the U.S. -- in any given year there are about 17 million people that go hunting, but in any given year most hunters do not actually go hunting).

 

To a realist or pragmatist, morals are just mental illness on parade. An inability to accept and live in the real world.

In the in real world, humans kill humans for sport. Most of us don't, but it's not rare. Homicide for trivial motives is even less rare.

Predators kill prey. You may not like it, but Nature doesn't care what you like, and laughs at you for your "principled" position that Nature is wrong. How freaking arrogant to pretend that you know better.

Humans treat animals badly. If you want to change that, you have a big job. How many pets have you rescued from local shelters, like I have? How much have you volunteered to support habitat protection and restoration for wildlife, like groups such as Ducks Unlimited have? And where do you stand on population control of, say, deer? Would you prefer that the population doubles so that more die of starvation and disease, or would you cull a few so the rest survive and live longer healthier lives? Which is your "moral" choice?

Sorry to rave, but declaring all hunting "immoral" struck me as incredibly offensive and naive. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

I should add that I've never hunted anything bigger than the blackbirds that were killing off all the other bird species, or the fish I caught and ate.

 

According to modern psychology, we were all psychopaths and serial killers.

Hey now. Some of us are rather proud of having earned that title.

 

It's obvious that you are missing the point, to simply put it murdering(can't call it hunting since he is pretty much trophy hunting) for sport is wrong and as is using word "Sport" to justify killing of an animal.

@dannyf My original statement did mention that part. Yes I'm okay with killing the good and bad bacteria after all they are part of my ecosystem.

 

They died because of their actions not because of mine.

Nope. They died because of yours. Plain and simple. Had you not traveled they would have lived but since you felt you had to go someplace they died.

Word twisting much? I have no problem with killing something that's trying to harm me. Bear didn't harm him.

So if he had not killed that bear before it tried to kill him that makes it wrong?

Do you kill bugs so that they can't potentially infect you with some disease or do you wait until after you have been infected to go out and kill them?

What's your stance on how the wood that your home is built out of came to be? You didn't personally kill those trees so you are absolved of the act?

 

Nope. They died because of yours. Plain and simple. Had you not traveled they would have lived but since you felt you had to go someplace they died.

They died because of my actions and theirs and both were not INTENTIONAL.

So if he had not killed that bear before it tried to kill him that makes it wrong?

Do you kill bugs so that they can't potentially infect you with some disease or do you wait until after you have been infected to go out and kill them?

What's your stance on how the wood that your home is built out of came to be? You didn't personally kill those trees so you are absolved of the act?

The bear obviously had no intention on killing him that day, if he had I doubt he would be posing with dead animal.
My house is made from 90% brick and mortar other 10% is wood and it's from planted forests.
I never got an infection from a bug or animal,most of them were from humans. I guess I should start killing humans now?