Aye! - Then there's those 'Mucinex' ads - for which someone should be arrested!

I think I repressed my memory of those-- just too horrible.

 

there is sign on path from ornamental grounds to main common area saying _you are now entering the mission field_

Ah! YES!

TTFN
HP

 

Listen up, wet-behind-the-ears child. My family has produced two males in three generations. Therefore I grew up surrounded by females. Aunts, sisters, cousins...all female except one. They showed me they could drive a semi, operate a table saw, dig post holes, build furniture, get a 4 year degree, and paint a house. You are the only person who ever accused me of being sexist and I seriously resent your behavior. Your welcome is worn out with me. Go away.

#12 so HP called to tell me I deeply hurt your feelings so I could apologize #12 if I really hurt your feelings I'm vry sry for that cuz that's just wrong! But that's all I can apologize for cuz what I said 2u was based on a lot of your posts that are vry gender conscious and full of negative stereotypes abt women! So I don't know if ur sexist or not! How could I? I don't know u well enough 2 know that! So if u say no one ever called u sexist b4 then ur prolly not! But how are ppl looking on some of your posts supposed to know ur just joking around unless they know u personally?

#12 just to see what I'm saying plz do search on your posts with _women_ and _female_ in search box and read hits from perspective of somebody who doesn't know u vry well!

Listen up, wet-behind-the-ears child.

#12 I own making some mistakes of ppl a lot younger than I am (like snap judgments). But now ur the one holding grudge for months over a few words based on misunderstanding on a chat forum So I say we're both guilty of acting childish!

You are the only person who ever accused me of being sexist and I seriously resent your behavior.

#12 I seriously resent gender stereotypes w/o visible effort 2 show it's all in jest! But instead of holding grudge and having double standard I just put it down to us having different senses of humor.

Your welcome is worn out with me. Go away.

#12 if that's how u feel then u need to keep my UN on your ignore list cuz I'm not going anywhere! If u post something in public and I have comment that's relevant and appropriate I'm going to comment cuz public posts aren't totally abt the poster! So for courtesy I can avoid tagging u and I can make quotes in way that doesn't alert u but don't ask me to cease participation just cuz u have like a _bee in your bonnet_ Now #12 that's not 2 say I plan 2 _troll_ ur posts or anything like that! I just mean going on like I have been.

So anyhow I say if _spoiled brat_ like me can get past all that gender stereotype dreck, a mature gentleman like yourself should be able to forgive me for not reading your mind to know posts were just joking! Just sayin'

Hey @#12 Please cut impulsive youth and its liability to misaprehension some slack -- You should hear some epithets she's hurled my way -- Difference being my long acquaintance with her true (good) nature

HP tnx for caring but plz don't ever apologize 4 me!

 

The only thing I found annoying about the commercial is, that as someone with a slowly degenerating lower back disk issue, I get twinges of jealousy now over those who can move fluidly in whole body movements with an obvious lack of pain or general discomfort.

That Toujeo commercial is tame.

Tcmtech and Obw0549 When that ad is on I want to see somebody plant a swift kick on his daintily dancing a--

I take it you haven't seen the recent Pepto Bismol commercials? The ones with that charming jingle about "upset stomach, bloating, gas and diarrhea"? And the very graphic group dance mimicking those maladies?

How about the utterly irredeemable ads for that disgusting product, VIPoo, that masks the odor from your "Devil's donuts"?

And the Fabreze ad: "I love you, basement guest bathroom. Your privacy makes you my #1 place... to go #2. I love you, but sometimes you stink."

Aye! Then there's that 'Mucinex' ad - for which someone should be arrested!

I say worst thing is they must sell product cuz ads are too expensive for just annoying viewers Personally I make point to boycott products with tasteless ads but there's a lot of drops in ocean

Being totally serious I agree that worst of all ads are ones talking abt serious illness! Cuz I say names of serious diseases are totally more obscene than any sort of profanity! So having that on tv in my den is even worse than drunken cigar smoking stevedore breaking in and telling details of his sex life Seriously! It's that RUDE!

 

HP tnx for caring but plz don't ever apologize 4 me!

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God have no friends"?!

When that ad is on I want to see somebody plant a swift kick on his daintily dancing a--

LOL!

Cuz I say names of serious diseases are totally more obscene than any sort of profanity! So having that on tv in my den is even worse than drunken cigar smoking stevedore breaking in and telling details of his sex life

--Emphasis added--

Telling tales out of school, are we?

Best regards
HP

 

It looks like this is a good time to be a retired air conditioner repairman.
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Unbelievable!

 

Why do my posts keep getting deleted from this thread? Have I said anything even remotely inflamatory? This is the off topic forum, excuse me for posting things off-topic from the off-topic topic.

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No, no, I un-concede. My last deleted post was EXACTLY ON TOPIC.

 

This thread has proved a lightning rod, for some of the things we are trying to limit here aon AAC, such as plitics and personal trolling .If I were smarter I could deal better, I apologize in advance to any people I may offend with my muddling efforts.Just know I'm trying to both keep it civil and a place where a 12 year old can browse and ask questions.

 

Why do my posts keep getting deleted from this thread? Have I said anything even remotely inflamatory? This is the off topic forum, excuse me for posting things off-topic from the off-topic topic.

Edit:
No, no, I un-concede. My last deleted post was EXACTLY ON TOPIC.

You're not alone; I've had my share of posts deleted or edited by the mods. But I decided a long time ago that there was no point getting too upset by it, as deleted/edited posts are just a fact of life here. No use fighting City Hall, etc...

 

Ok, ok I'll settle down now. Sorry for getting <snip> At least it was just a quick reply and not something I had put a lot of effort into.

Mod edit: Language

 

This thread has proved a lightning rod, for some of the things we are trying to limit here aon AAC, such as plitics and personal trolling .If I were smarter I could deal better, I apologize in advance to any people I may offend with my muddling efforts.Just know I'm trying to both keep it civil and a place where a 12 year old can browse and ask questions.

I am sorry, this is Internet and a 6 year old can view pornography. What we can do is provide them with balanced information. You have just engaged in sensorship. I have tried to find a reasonable article that gives a different view of the topic where the whole thread is one sided. We have a post that blames the victim of rape for not coming forward (Hollywood BS set aside, the post is actually very generalized).

Good luck, I am out.

 

What you say is true enough but moderators are here to keep AAC off a nanny software list. We have rules and as moderators are honor bound to enforce them. Do we always get it right? Probably not but it is our job to try.

 

And keep in mind that the mod staff does not and can not read every post. Nearly all posts that are edited or deleted are posts that are reported by other members. That is a hit-and-miss proposition. If someone posts something and no one reports it, then the mods never see it and it slips through unchallenged and unchanged. So it serves little purpose to complain about this post being deleted when that post wasn't. If you have an objection to a post -- REPORT IT.

 

I am sorry, this is Internet and a 6 year old can view pornography.

Your point?

Are you trying to say that we should have no guidelines and let anyone post absolutely anything?

What we can do is provide them with balanced information. You have just engaged in sensorship.

So? The mod staff is charged with censoring posts that violate the guidelines set down by the owners when those posts come to our attention. Screaming "censorship" is almost always little more than an attempt to demand that you have an absolute right to have your views heard in each and every way you want to. Sorry, but this is a privately owned forum and the owners are the ones with the absolute right to decide what will and won't be deemed acceptable for being posted here.

TRUE censorship is when an authority that has the power to impose real and meaningful sanctions on you declares that you cannot make your views heard anywhere. That is not even close to being the case here.

 

Your point?

Are you trying to say that we should have no guidelines and let anyone post absolutely anything?

It's not about that. It's about realistic standards that match the likely and already well known primary demographic.
Very few people who are into electronics, or any topic that pops up on the off topic section, don't understand at least the basics of the subject matter are underaged to the point of absolute sheltered cluelessness to the reality of life and how people talk and what they talk about in civilized group settings.

I see the demographic here as being able to comfortably handle PG 13 level language terminology, subject matter and general discussions, and not people or small children needing preschool/'college safespace' G rated standards simply because one or two want to take advantage of the now high level lockdowns on anything they can find reason to falsely read something into for their intended filed complaint about it.
If someone is that emotionally an topically sensitive they really shouldn't be on the internet alone to begin with let alone in a forum frequented primarily by mature adults.

So? The mod staff is charged with censoring posts that violate the guidelines set down by the owners when those posts come to our attention. Screaming "censorship" is almost always little more than an attempt to demand that you have an absolute right to have your views heard in each and every way you want to. Sorry, but this is a privately owned forum and the owners are the ones with the absolute right to decide what will and won't be deemed acceptable for being posted here.

TRUE censorship is when an authority that has the power to impose real and meaningful sanctions on you declares that you cannot make your views heard anywhere. That is not even close to being the case here.

For the majority it's not about actual censorship as it's about things being easily perceivable as obvious double standards on who decides what is topically relevant and who is just butthurt and doing purposefully targeted troll attacks, IE, False Report Attack Trolling (FRAT) by using misguided rules enforcement loophole trolling methods via the report systems, over their perceived view that a comment or statement from a specific person (and ignorable for anyone else) over something that it's not contextually intended to imply or be remotely related to.

Which as of lately 'contextually not relevant' complaint attacks with the full intent to FRAT someone though getting their post edited or deleted for no legitimate reason is a growing problem and I think is likely universally driven by only a few people playing troll games against certain others (self justified retaliating when given false cause) who have roughed them up in the past for their purposely playing dumb for no legitimate reason beyond hurt pride, or because they got hit for real unwanted actions and now just want to simply retaliate by whatever means they've that they think they can get away with.

Take those who play to being petty stupid or deliberately use feigned overreactions to dumb contextually irrelevant stuff just so that they can have the satisfaction of having taken out another members otherwise benign post through FRAT tactics. Especially given how very few of anyone here actually ever says much that is truly bad and worth editing and removal.

Legitimate profanity has nothing to do with it in the vast majority of cases and has even less warrant for full deletions of posts.
Same with full deletions of posts because someone willingly read something out of the topical context and wanted to use it to get a post deleted just to get under the posters skin since they have so few remaining workable ways to be a troll any more other than through that -report and get something deleted- loophole that forces the moderators to cater to certain sensitivities, feigned or otherwise but largely feigned, in the adult cross section of the forum membership.

Low level profanity was not a problem here until the FRATing started and any limited and formal political discussion was never a major issue here before certain people decided to play epicly stupid just to get at those who were besting them day after day in civilized formal discussion and debate.

Get rid of your root trolls who started an continue to push all the political correctness by forcing everyone to have to cater to their ever increasing demands for their version of censorship (to avoid being FRATed over petty irrelevant nonsense) on what can be discussed, or not, and why and you fix the biggest part of the fourms problem.

 

It's not about that. It's about realistic standards that match the likely and already well known primary demographic.

who have roughed them up in the past for playing dumb for no legitimate reason beyond hurt pride or because they got hit for real unwarranted actions and want to simply retaliate by whatever means they've that they think they can get away with.

I think your spot on, those with inflated egos out to grab, shoot down anyone because they got pulled to the carpet from their personal attacks, feeling they know what the site wants when in reality you might not represent me in your reprisals it only satisfy's your distinct need to get your little dig, it reminds me of everything in the news about someone who's been abused.

It shocked me when I listened to a phone ad where someone was offering money for people who interacted with certain individuals in the news and suddenly you have a flock of people after the money. You'll do anything for another seat wouldn't you, seems I'm at a loss for words I'm just ashamed it's come this far to get what you think will make you happy.

Sometimes we get what we want then wonder what the (he-double hockey sticks) was I thinking this isn't what I wanted after all.

All I can say is get a life because you certainly spend far to much time sulking over stupid boring dumb crap.

kv

 

I think your spot on, those with inflated egos out to grab, shoot down anyone because they got pulled to the carpet from their personal attacks, feeling they know what the site wants when in reality you might not represent me in your reprisals it only satisfy's your distinct need to get your little dig, it reminds me of everything in the news about someone who's been abused.

It shocked me when I listened to a phone ad where someone was offering money for people who interacted with certain individuals in the news and suddenly you have a flock of people after the money. You'll do anything for another seat wouldn't you, seems I'm at a loss for words I'm just ashamed it's come this far to get what you think will make you happy.

Sometimes we get what we want then wonder what the (he-double hockey sticks) was I thinking this isn't what I wanted after all.

All I can say is get a life because you certainly spend far to much time sulking over stupid boring dumb crap.

kv

Thanks. I think anyone who is trying the find the unbiased reality of what our culture is and how its acting lately and what needs to be done to fix it knows exactly how that all works. And, it's not just a product of our macro culture but is now very much alive and growing on the forum thanks the tirelessly proudly and petty work of a few key people from and in both past and present.

The thing is, nobody accidentally walks into the reality of complex adult or near adult social interaction and makes a total unwarranted untrustworthy proud fool of themselves for months on end and doesn't know what they are playing to and why. Same with everyone watching them do it. We all know it when we see it and it's only falsely misplaced polite courtesy that we don't call them out for and reprimand them for violating the well understood unspoken rules of social interaction.

The unspoken social etiquette rules that are rapidly crumbling because nobody wants to stand up for what's right and necessary or hurt anyone's feelings by telling them to knock their nonsense off before it costs them and everyone else way more than we all can afford to lose.

If someone is continuously deliberately lying or cheating and or just taking advantage of the unspoken courtesy rules of social interaction and civilized general conduct (by feigning utter invoiceable stupidity over and over) they need to be called out on it and be held accountable before they and everything else goes too far.

To not do it makes those who stand by and watch out of cowardly politeness or that block intervention towards the primary perpetrators, because they too are or maybe potentially guilty themselves in some tiny way, are just as guilty.

Until the political thread blew up, and no one who had the power to put out the fire so much as bothered to lift a finger until it was way too late, (despite ample and related widespread request and warnings) none of us had major ongoing issues with anyone else on any topic or general subject.

If you and I disagreed we made our case for what we believed and one or both of us learned something new. Some days it was me and some days it was you who learned more but neither of us went off all raging butthurt or played so unbelievably stupid it was insulting to the other and everyone within eye and ear shot just so that we didn't have to accept being proven wrong.

Plus no one went off with an idiotic plan to claim false witness over what the other said or did in any posts just so that we could use forum rules to get that which we disagreed with deleted, for what should be obvious unspoken rule based false pretenses, or to just get under the others skin in order to satisfy our petty ignorant pride and ego and or while hoping it just makes the other mad if nothing else.

Now, that's a more than daily occurrence here and growing rapidly worse and larger to affect more and more people over dumber and dumber false claims, just to satisfy egos or to avoid having to accept being proven wrong and actually learning something that is true and real that does not fit our or someone else's wishes of what reality should be according to my, yours or anyone else's ever narrowing views.

I am here to learn what I don't know while teaching that which I do know to anyone who will listen.

I'm not here to watch some prideful fool make an idiot of himself because he can't defend his views or claims or that reality is not what he wants it to be with any shred of civilized decency.

Nor am I here to be attacked , accused, harassed and had my work edited and or deleted for and over equally absurd and stupid childish things because someone somehow thinks it's going to make me look like the bad guy and vindicate their false bizarre petty, ignorant twisted view and want of reality.

 

There have been many discussions, elsewhere, on the vitriolic language associated with anonymity with respect to the internet. The con side of the argument always talked about the negative side of anonymity, the negative chatter. Negative chatter is one of many on the negative side, the others tend towards illegal activities.

All AAC can do is provide the guidelines for the moderators to follow. No volunteer moderation team can be on top every forum. Should there be a subscriber only forum only, not visible to non-subscribers. One that is unfettered by rules found in the other forums.

I suspect if there were an unfettered section in AAC, mayhem would be the kindest word I can use to describe it. The downfall of such a section would be the bleed over into other forums where to OPFORs would carry their battle.

The closest thing you have to that is "conversations." I suspect most people would not want their vitriolic opponents in a conversation they started.

 

I suspect if there were an unfettered section in AAC, mayhem would be the kindest word I can use to describe it. The downfall of such a section would be the bleed over into other forums where to OPFORs would carry their battle.

Indeed!

TTFN
HP