Where to add a sensitivity pot in my circuit

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Serik21

Joined Feb 23, 2018
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Hello folks!

I'm building the attached circuit to convert the voltage signal from a piezo in an electronic drum head to a simple on/off signal.

My question is where could I insert a pot in the circuit to adjust the threshold of how much voltage from the piezo (ie how hard you would have to hit the drum ) to send the signal through the circuit? What basically would would end up being a sensitivity adjustment.



I appreciate your time and efforts greatly!

Thank you!
 

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Serik21

Joined Feb 23, 2018
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Since the kick trigger is outputting voltage through the tip of the mono jack, would I wire the tip to the first leg of the pot, the sweeper to pin 2 of the LM386 and the 3rd leg of the pot to ground?

And since the voltage coming out of the kick trigger piezo is so negligible I would want to use a small pot, 1k? 10k? I have 100k pots but I feel like there would be a very small adjustable range before you would lose all the voltage .
 

sghioto

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Since the kick trigger is outputting voltage through the tip of the mono jack, would I wire the tip to the first leg of the pot, the sweeper to pin 2 of the LM386 and the 3rd leg of the pot to ground?
That would be correct. 100K pot should work OK as well.
SG
 

sghioto

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I noticed on the schematic pin #4 of the 555 is shown connected to pin #2. It should be connected to pin #8 or 5 volts. Also suggest a few extra components to clean up the signal from the LM386 as shown in the attachment.
SG
EEE drum head one shot.png
 
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Serik21

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I noticed on the schematic pin #4 of the 555 is shown connected to pin #2. It should be connected to pin #8 or 5 volts.
SG
So you're staying the 5v going to pin 2 via a 100k resistor will not be enough? So I should tie leg 4 directly to the 5v rail?
 

sghioto

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So you're staying the 5v going to pin 2 via a 100k resistor will not be enough? So I should tie leg 4 directly to the 5v rail?
I'm saying that Pin 4 is the reset pin and is normally connected to 5 volts and should not be connected to pin 2. Pin 2 doesn't need the 100K to 5 volts because the output of the LM386 pin 5 is biased at half the supply or 2.5 volts. See edited post #5
SG
 

ScottWang

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I noticed on the schematic pin #4 of the 555 is shown connected to pin #2. It should be connected to pin #8 or 5 volts. Also suggest a few extra components to clean up the signal from the LM386 as shown in the attachment.
SG
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It still there is no any resistor in series between pin 3 of 555 and bjt(2N3904) and then it will damage the bjt.
 

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Serik21

Joined Feb 23, 2018
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I'm saying that Pin 4 is the reset pin and is normally connected to 5 volts and should not be connected to pin 2. Pin 2 doesn't need the 100K to 5 volts because the output of the LM386 pin 5 is biased at half the supply or 2.5 volts. See edited post #5
SG
So I'm still fairly new at circuit building. The caps you added, does it matter what voltage they are as long as the are larger than 5v? Or there a specific voltage I should be getting .
 

ScottWang

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So would I multimeter across the circuit from pin 3 of 555 to ground and test resistance when striking the piezo?

And then would I match the resistor value?
What kind of piezo are you using and do you have the specification of piezo?
Or maybe you can use a 1K and in series with a 10K pot to adjust the sound until you satisfy and power off and to measures the values of 10K pot and 1K, the last is to replace it with a fixed resistor close to the values that you measure.
 

sghioto

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Speaking of a 1K resistor I went back and added a resistor to the 10K pot that controls the pulse width. This is to eliminate a short from pin 7 to 5 volts if the pot is turned all the way in the wrong direction. Post #5 edited again.;)
SG
 

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Serik21

Joined Feb 23, 2018
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Speaking of a 1K resistor I went back and added a resistor to the 10K pot that controls the pulse width. This is to eliminate a short from pin 7 to 5 volts if the pot is turned all the way in the wrong direction. Post #5 edited again.;)
SG
Thank you guys so much for your help. I'm not 100% sure what piezo it is as it's inside of a Yamaha KP-65 electronic drum kick trigger . And the brain at the end of the circuit is a drum brain used to play the video game rock band. The kick pedal that originally comes with the game is simply a dry contact as opposed to a piezo so to get a "real" kick pedal to work with the game you have to convert the voltage signal of the piezo to a dry off/on.

SG - I actually plan to use a 100K pot for pulse width adjustment as it allows for use with other kick trigger models as it mentions in the original schematic i attached.Would I change that 1k resistor you added to a 10k then? Or just leave it as a 1K

Again thank you guys so much for your help.
 

sghioto

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SG - I actually plan to use a 100K pot for pulse width adjustment as it allows for use with other kick trigger models as it mentions in the original schematic i attached.Would I change that 1k resistor you added to a 10k then? Or just leave it as a 1K
Leave it at 1K.
SG
 
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