what is TOS, why can't i learn what we want in this site?

bushrat

Joined Nov 29, 2014
209
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/user-agreement/
I think you are thinking about section 6...
Restricted topics. The following topics are regularly raised however are considered "off-topic" at all times and will result in Your thread being closed without question:

  • Any kind of over-unity devices and systems
  • Devices designed to electrocute or shock another person
  • LEDs to mains
  • Any kind of jammers (ie - Phone jammers)
  • Rail guns and high-energy projectile devices
  • Transformer-less power supplies
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
7,830
what is this TOS, please someone give me a link to read
Why can't I drive as fast as I want?

Why can't I go the wrong way down a one way street?

Why can't I just go through stop signs?

Why do I have to pay taxes?

Why can't I make as much noise as I want in a theater?

Why can't I have a campfire in a drought region?

Why can't I just dump my garbage on the street?

Why can't I take whatever drug that I want?
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,823
what is this TOS, please someone give me a link to read
ToS means Terms of Service, also known as the User Agreement.

When you registered you had to check a box indicating that you agreed to the Terms of Service and the Privacy Policy.

Here is the link to the ToS: https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/help/terms

The very first sentence directs you to a more detailed page: https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/user-agreement/

Part of that agreement is a list of topics that the owners of the site have decided they do not want discussed. Since this is THEIR site, they have every right to do so. Just as you would have every right to prohibit whatever topics you wanted to on any site that you own and pay for.
 

bushrat

Joined Nov 29, 2014
209
ok fine, this is insane bcz exactly what i want to talk about is one of the prohibited topics
There is a reason why its prohibited. Certain topics are purposely off-limits for safety reasons.
It seems like 2 of your posts were closed: LED to mains and transformerless power supply (battery as shunt regulator), both referring to same schematic.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,823
ok fine, this is insane bcz exactly what i want to talk about is one of the prohibited topics
And you knew this when you joined and yet you still joined and tried to talk about those prohibited topics.

So any time a forum doesn't allow you to talk about exactly what YOU want to talk about it is insane?

The solution is simple. Start up your own forum. Then you can demand that people only talk about exactly what you want to talk about.
 

paulktreg

Joined Jun 2, 2008
851
I can understand some users not being able to find "TOS".

If this is how the forum members are going to refer to it then "User Agreement" should be changed to "Terms Of Service"?
 

BR-549

Joined Sep 22, 2013
4,931
If you watch a you tube video of a brain surgery.....do you think you could do it?

Would you let a goat herder wire your house, where your family lives?

Do you believe that you can work with AC mains power?

AND you are upset? How upset will your family be when they find your dead body?

If you want to work with AC main power(without isolation)........go to school.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,823
I can understand some users not being able to find "TOS".

If this is how the forum members are going to refer to it then "User Agreement" should be changed to "Terms Of Service"?
No matter what we call it, both names will continue to be used since both names are in widespread use.

Plus, there are actually two pages. The first is titled, "Terms of Service and Rules". It incorporated, by linked reference, the paged titled, "User Agreement".

Now, an argument could be made that they should be combined into a single document and I've often that that this would make sense. On the other hand, an argument can be made that they should remain separate with the first focused on the legalistic terms and the second focused on the more practical terms, which is roughly how it is now (but could be improved).

The real underlying problem is that new members do not actually read either -- they just click the box saying that they agree with them. That's not going to change.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,823
....and if you know how to safely work on mains and understand it to the bone, then you wouldn't have to post it on forum asking questions about it...
Yeahbut....

Personally I think that discussion should be allowed, if only for the educational aspect of it. We permit discussion of high voltage transmission systems and high voltage tesla coils and other items that can get someone fried, not to mention lots of discussion involving working on house wiring, PV systems, and home appliances. Each of these can get someone that doesn't know what they are doing in trouble very quickly and the same, "if you have to ask," argument could be made. But I'm not the one that makes the decision on the allowed topics. It's a point of repeated discussion amongst the staff, but until the site owners change the rules, we are charged with enforcing them.
 

dendad

Joined Feb 20, 2016
4,637
It is really scary what some posters, in their ignorance, want to attempt. And then, when they are advised against it, they argue and ignore the advice anyway.
I have been playing with electronics for around 50years, 16 years of it at a HF radio transmitter site where we used 30KV DC at over 100KW power levels. I am very wary of high volts and mains circutry. Even so, it is easy to loose concentration and get zapped.
Please believe it, new electronics entnhusiest, we do care for your safety and so the restrictions apply.
 

Glenn Holland

Joined Dec 26, 2014
703
ToS means Terms of Service, also known as the User Agreement.

When you registered you had to check a box indicating that you agreed to the Terms of Service and the Privacy Policy.

Here is the link to the ToS: https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/help/terms

The very first sentence directs you to a more detailed page: https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/user-agreement/

Part of that agreement is a list of topics that the owners of the site have decided they do not want discussed. Since this is THEIR site, they have every right to do so. Just as you would have every right to prohibit whatever topics you wanted to on any site that you own and pay for.
Just as a little question, who are the actual owner(s) of the AAC site?
 
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