Website Building

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Yes, exactly. Maybe this is no longer offered anymore but it was a thing in the past. It was always too limited for anything I needed but your needs sound quite simple.

You might consider self-hosting. All you need is a static IP address and your ISP is the one that can (or won't) do this for you. You won't have a fancy domain name.com, but if you're just driving people to a storage site, you can just link to your server.

I considered doing this for the last site I worked on but I decided the electricity to run my computer would amount to nearly what GoDaddy charges for hosting, and they have all the worries about keeping the site functional. It wasn't worth doing it from my house.
 

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PICNewbee

Joined Mar 31, 2017
355
Bertus

Thank you.

Wayne-O

Thanks for jogging my memory.

Used to have Godaddy.

Will start up again with them.

Their phone support is equivalent of having a 'For Dummies' book.

Guy there pointed out Wordpress is if you already know a little. It is not a 'pre built' site.

I know. There are fine differences. Yes. Wordpress is a little pre built.

You sure can mess things up in a hurry with it!
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
7,889
Thank you both again.

I bookmarked Verio and took a quick look at it.

That's about all I can do at the moment.

Another 'mechanism' I've noticed is 'lowest price/no ads'.

Angelwing and Tripod look kind of simple.
Oh yeah, another little picky detail. Nothing is free as there is a price somewhere. Free website hosting normally adds advertising to your web pages. A good example is the AOL pages I mentioned earlier. When you see a super low priced web presence provider there is generally a catch. Think about it, webspace and web bandwidth cost money. Your homepage may contain a rotation banner reading "Eat At Joe's". This is why homework as you are doing is sort of important. You don't want a surprise later. Let's say you want to place a database on your web only to find out your server does not support Microsoft Access or Microsoft SQL and that is how you built your data base? You really don't want unwanted surprises when it's too late.

When you build feel free to ask more questions before you commit to a provider.

Ron
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
4,390
@PICNewbee

I would suggest you write down all the features you want your "website" to have or do. Then investigate the WPP (Web Presence Providers).

Is there something that already exists that meets all your needs?

Make you plan then work your plan.
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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One thing I am seeing a bit more talk about in other places is newer fourn hosting systems have a publically controlled anti trolling capabilities that apparently those who publically use the site largely control simply by being able to select who can post or not post in a thread or have voted out of thread if needed be without much of the site moderation ever having to participate.

I don't know what forums are using it but for what I hear of others it all but stops blatant trolling by letting the community police itself and lock out the worst offenders right from the start of a thread or kick them out later if need be. :cool:

Not sure if you are planning on ever getting to a full on forum capability but I can definitely see the appeal it would have to the average person who's tired of thread derailments typically by a few idiots who can't keep their mouth shut and negative opinions to themselves toward anyone or everyone to save their lives. ;)
 

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PICNewbee

Joined Mar 31, 2017
355
Ron Thanks

Going to do the Godaddy 30 day trial and use Wordpress to edit site.

With the phone support I can muddle through it.

I know you can 'cut things finer' but I will pay attention to 'in and outs' of how this works.
 

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PICNewbee

Joined Mar 31, 2017
355
Joe thanks

That's good advice. I'm just going to 'jump in' to a website and find out the hard way.

TCM thanks.

I don't think I want to get involved with a forum.

There was one forum I just would not go on anymore.

Plus a current one I will not go on for any reason..
 
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tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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TCM thanks.

I don't think I want to get involved with a forum.

There was one forum I just would not go on anymore.

Plus a current one I will not go on for any reason..
I can totally understand. I've been on around 20 since I hit the internet about 10- 12 years ago. Some just dried up and died, some shut down due to being overrun by trolls and fighting, some became nothing but troll dens where nothing productive or positive could ever go anywhere and others just got too cliquish/narrow minded and boring. :(

I'm down to about three primary and few occasionals I pop into once and awhile but as with the past others they are either drying up or just not in my interests any more.

Personally I'd hate to make running a forum a full time job hence the interest in who these sites are that let the actual people run the member rating and participation limits systems. That's what I am curious about given the overall good talk about the general civility that goes with letting the people who use them set each others limits. Just not sure if they are technical forums though being I can't recall the names or primary objectives of any that I have heard mentioned.

All I can recall is their being praised for being set up where the average person can block someone else from posting in their threads or if enough votes go against someone they get blocked or something like that to which that if it concept catches on it would likely revolutionize internet forums and general chat/discussion systems for the better. No fun trying to be a troll if you can only ever post 1- 2 comments before being blocked from a thread and having to re join the forum in a new account to make any more only to get another few posts in before being kicked out again and so on. :cool:

Also as with you I have thought about building a official website (opr at lest personal online archive center) just to keep all my primary reference material and what not on so I don't have to rewrite long complex tutorials on certain things or to give longer more in depth explanations to certain topics as well. ;)

That and I rather enjoy technical writing in general despite being a lifelong english class class flunkie. (I really think it was the teachers and not me at this point.) :p
 

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PICNewbee

Joined Mar 31, 2017
355
'I have thought about building a official website'

That's what I'm doing.

Primarily a project website.

Godaddy support isn't what it used to be.

I remember spending a long time on each call before.

Now they seem to clamp down on that.

We'll see. Then I had a couple business websites.
 

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PICNewbee

Joined Mar 31, 2017
355
Came up with a few things.

Neocities is 'no ad's' and free. It actually is.

Also looks like it's pretty free speech in their way.

I actually learned more with my Angelfire free trial.

Actually found the 'Navigation' feature to add a sort of Table of Contents.

Then something else. I think it is that you can 'bounce out' to HTML type editing.

But meantime the urge to build my own website has passed.

Have higher priority stuff to deal with at the moment.

The one. I think Joomla with their 'Preferred Provider'. Has a 90 day free trial.

Only one that had that. Siteground I think.
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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But meantime the urge to build my own website has passed.

Have higher priority stuff to deal with at the moment.
Rather where my thoughts went as well. Winter time, when I have a lot of indoor free time to burn up, makes the thought appealing then but right now not so much given I go to bed around midnight and am up and running by 7 - 8 AM and put in a fair 8 - 12 hours of actual work in that time and another 4 - 6 of screwing around on non/less productive stuff I enjoy.
 

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PICNewbee

Joined Mar 31, 2017
355
TCM

That's like Turner Classic Movies. Works for me.

Have registered for a half dozen web hosters.

Sort of part time testing their support.

Chat feature is a good thing.

Will post updates on progress.
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
4,390
'I have thought about building a official website'
There is free "software" to help you build your website and test it on your computer. I don't know what an "official website" is, but I think it means you will have your own domain, either some space on a server or a whole server with a registered IP address.
 

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PICNewbee

Joined Mar 31, 2017
355
Here's an update.

I do not like the totally free Neocities.

It is html.

Is there a way to write without putting <P> before and after each sentence?
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
18,104
Will I be able to get this looking like other websites?
That depends on what "other websites" you mean. If you mean anything other than the crudest sites, no. Modern sites use HTML 5, XML with cascading style sheets and all sorts of much more advanced formatting than you can accomplish with straight old HTML, even if you're good at it. That's what you're paying for when you buy software that handles all that coding for you. You type and layout a page with graphics and so on, and the software writes the actual code.

And that's just for a static page. Start adding interactive elements and your head will explode.
 

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PICNewbee

Joined Mar 31, 2017
355
Thanks Wayne

I'm beginning to like this Neocities thing.

I will go as far as I can with it.

Really. It's got enough to keep me busy. I think.
 
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