Website Building

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Are you restricting yourself to any particular platform and OS? I have some Mac experience but it probably won't help you much.

Also, are you asking about creating the content only, or do you need to build the whole thing including the server?
 

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PICNewbee

Joined Mar 31, 2017
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Wayne

Be forewarned! I went back to Wordpress. I mean I'm past stage of asking for webhosting sites.

That's a 'can of worms' itself.

I just want to have table of contents and 'page' ? for each topic.

Sound about right?
 

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PICNewbee

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'restricting yourself to any particular platform and OS?'

Not a big technical undertaking. Personal website on Windows 7 Pro.

'creating the content only, or do you need to build the whole thing including the server?'

Hobby projects website on Wordpress.

An overview would help.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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For the needs you've described, I'd recommend a low-end site creation package that comes with a bunch of templates. You'll choose your template and focus almost entirely on your content without worrying about layout issues. Good templates will have the code built in to adjust to different screen sizes, aspect ratios and so on. It's a horrible chore to reinvent that wheel. The software may also handle uploading your site over FTP to your web host. Having the app keep track of revisions to make sure the website is kept current is a feature that's worth more than you might think.

You might be able to find a free alternative, but even a modestly priced application will save you enough time to be worth it.
 

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PICNewbee

Joined Mar 31, 2017
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Wayne

Thanks!

I'm slowly catching on to the division between software to build the site and web hosting.

Wordpress was a little confusing. Wordpress app and Wordpress hosting.

Have not commited to that. Keeping options open.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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While my experience dates back quite a few years we have website hosting and website building. When it comes to website hosting it pretty much depends on what you expect from the server side. I would like a simple one page web with a few images to I want a web hosting hundreds of images and a shopping cart and instant credit card approval and it must be secure. That sort of can cost between free and hundreds of US Dollars a month. Depends on what you want. Your web can be hosted on a Unix platform or Windows platform, you can have SQL or not have SQL There is an endless list of features. Years ago when AOL was running hot and heavy they gave their users a inclusive free web page. Today there are dozens of WPPs (Web Presence Providers) or businesses which will host your website. Likely best to sit down with a blank sheet of paper and start listing the website features you want or need. Once hosting is out of the way and a domain name bought which most hosting companies will do for you then you need to build the site itself.

Years ago one sat down with their HTML (Hyper Text Markup Language) For Dummies book and began trying to pound out HTML code. Then web browsers got smarter and the code got smarter and along came the WYSIWYG editor or What You See Is What You Get and just about anyone could build a reasonable website. There were dozens of software solutions ranging from free to I can't believe it cost that much. Software solutions like Macromedia Fireworks and Flash were upwards of a few thousand US Dollars but they did really cool web development effects. Using free one could build a basic website so much like choosing a web hosting platform based on features the same is pretty much true for choosing website building software. Most web hosting companies offer a free version of some software for building a website they host. You can read reviews of the ten best website building software but in the end it really comes down to what exactly you want the site to consist of and what features you need or want in the site? Avoid anything free trial as once you build a site you need to maintain it. Microsoft offers a free version of their Expression Web 4 which you can try. Again, it depends on what you want in a site. The free solutions will be limited in scope but at a cost of free it's hard to complain. :)

Ron
 

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PICNewbee

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Ron

Thanks!

Found the newest wrinkle.

https://domains.google/#/

I just want an 'Articles' website. My Projects.

So I can just post link and stop explaining things repeatedly.

Been so busy with projects haven't had time to look into a webpage.:)
 

Reloadron

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I just want an 'Articles' website. My Projects.

So I can just post link and stop explaining things repeatedly.
You aren't asking much so a relatively simple site should serve you fine. Something from Go Daddy or Google would likely work fine for your needs. They all offer easy to use tools to manage the site and build the site. This is where you sit down with a pencil and paper and start a layout. You would start with a Parent Page which has a brief description of the site and links to all of the Child pages below the parent page. Anyway for text and some images (drawings) you won't need much.

Ron
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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My experience parallels @Reloadron 's. I started back in ~1990 with a hand-coded site hosted on a Mac. I recall using the site at a trade show, hosted on the same machine that the users used to browse it. No www in between. An early kiosk application, I guess.

The last site I did is hosted on GoDaddy and employs a lot of fancy XML style sheets and so on that I don't want to understand - as long as it works - as well as some php scripting I did to add user-access levels to control logging in and control of what users can access.
 

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PICNewbee

Joined Mar 31, 2017
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Thank you Ron and Wayne

Have to deal with something before turning my full attention to this.

In the meantime did have a fairly good idea.

Are the websites you guys have portable?

In that if I say 'Okay. I'll just choose ABC Webhosting'.

I'm worried about redoing the whole content over again at the next Web hoster.

Do you just move your whole website intact?
 

wayneh

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Yes, a website can be mostly portable. If you rely on services provided by the host, switching becomes more complicated.
 

Reloadron

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Are the websites you guys have portable?

In that if I say 'Okay. I'll just choose ABC Webhosting'.

I'm worried about redoing the whole content over again at the next Web hoster.

Do you just move your whole website intact?
While I never moved it I could as I keep a backup copy on my local machine and even that gets backed up. I use the web mostly for storage and I think I set the first of two webs up around 2000 so about 17 years ago. I use Verio as my service provider. My billing is automatic on both domains I have and they bill three months at a time. They also take care of my domain name renewals when they are due. Later with what I learned I applied to my work in creating an intraweb and incorporating Microsoft InfoPath even though IS was not my job it set well up the chain. :) Today, retired, I don't do much with anything web. Still have the two domains but mostly junk out there and mostly storage and backup files for my and my wife's computers.

When you have a web all done it is considered a "published" web. Publishing just means the website is published to for example www.yourweb.com. Once published you can reverse publish a website to for example a location on your own computers hard drive. For example create a folder in the root of your C:\\ Drive name it My_Web and reverse publish your web there to maintain a copy of it.

Ron

Ron
 
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PICNewbee

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Thank you both again.

I bookmarked Verio and took a quick look at it.

That's about all I can do at the moment.

Another 'mechanism' I've noticed is 'lowest price/no ads'.

Angelwing and Tripod look kind of simple.
 
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