Wattage in voltage devider

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Chillum

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The only schottky I can easily attain, give me a part no, see if mantech.co.za will have it, but don't know when I'll be able to pick it up from Mantech :-/
 

studiot

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The tolerance of the regulator reference voltage will also give some variation in the output voltage from the ideal, even with exact resistors. If you want exactly 5V then you can use a pot (connected as a rheostat) for one of the resistors, but note that 5V circuits are typically designed to operate properly with +/- 5% tolerance on their supply voltage.
I see Crutschow has already said this.

what wattage should trimpot be, I can get cement trimmers for 0.75W
Since this is a learning exercise try calculating for yourself.

What is the voltage and/ or current through the trim pot?
Either will lead you to the power dissipated. add 25% for safety.

I have two MJ2955 transistors listed.

These are TO3 metal can 150 watt devices
The MJ2955A has better guaranteed gain (20 to 70 at 4 amps) than the MJ2955 (5 at 10 amps)

The MJE2955s are what we call plastic transistors and have lower power ratings.

You need to be a bit more careful about these since there are three versions with different pinouts.

The MJE2955 has a TO127 case and a guaranteed gain of 20 -70 at 4 amps and a power max of 90 watts. Pinout is E-C-B
The MJE2955T has a TO220 case and a guaranteed gain of 20 min at 4 amps and a power max of 75 watts. Pinout is B-C-E
The MJE2955K has a TO220 case and a guaranteed gain of 5 at 10 amps and a power max of 90 watts. Pinout is B-C-E

There are similar variations in the 3055 range

So check with your supplier if you get these.
 

studiot

Joined Nov 9, 2007
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Are you going to use your 12 volt camera supplies?

You do not need fast schotty rectifiers for this, ordinary cheaper ones will do.

The schotty's are for the switching supply that you already have.
 

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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
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I see Crutschow has already said this.



Since this is a learning exercise try calculating for yourself.

What is the voltage and/ or current through the trim pot?
Either will lead you to the power dissipated. add 25% for safety.

I have two MJ2955 transistors listed.

These are TO3 metal can 150 watt devices
The MJ2955A has better guaranteed gain (20 to 70 at 4 amps) than the MJ2955 (5 at 10 amps)

The MJE2955s are what we call plastic transistors and have lower power ratings.

You need to be a bit more careful about these since there are three versions with different pinouts.

The MJE2955 has a TO127 case and a guaranteed gain of 20 -70 at 4 amps and a power max of 90 watts. Pinout is E-C-B
The MJE2955T has a TO220 case and a guaranteed gain of 20 min at 4 amps and a power max of 75 watts. Pinout is B-C-E
The MJE2955K has a TO220 case and a guaranteed gain of 5 at 10 amps and a power max of 90 watts. Pinout is B-C-E

There are similar variations in the 3055 range

So check with your supplier if you get these.
The supplier I can easily get parts from is Yebo Electronics (www.fort777.co.za) local. The suppplier that have more parts is www.mantech.co.za, but it's in another suburb, so difficult to get to with my VERY limited transport options...

At Yebo I can get "MJ2955 - High Power PNP Silicon Transistor, T0220 (SEM62H)" If that one will work, then it's way more possible to get the part, dunno when I'll be able to get a lift to www.mantech.co.za, but they have MJE2995T
 

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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
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You can use 1W.Pot can be 0.5W LINEAR. 1N5822 diode is close enough.

1N5822 Schottky Barrier Rectifier (DOD822)
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1N5822 Schottky Barrier Rectifier 3A 40V

Low switching noise.
Low forward voltage drop 0.525V max.
High surge capability 80A for 8.3ms.
High reliability.

Specifications
Max. Recurring Peak Reverse Voltage: 40V
Max. RMS Voltage: 28V
Max. DC Blocking Voltage: 40V
Max. Average Forward Rectified Current at 95°C: 3A
Max. Instantaneous Forward Voltage at 3A DC: 0.525V
Max. Forward Voltage at 9.4A: 0.95V
Max. Average Reverse Current at 40V DC: 2mA
Case style 5 x 2.6 (dia) mm: DO-41

How will this diode rectify 5V? says blocking voltage 40V
 

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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
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I see Crutschow has already said this.



Since this is a learning exercise try calculating for yourself.

What is the voltage and/ or current through the trim pot?
Either will lead you to the power dissipated. add 25% for safety.

I have two MJ2955 transistors listed.

These are TO3 metal can 150 watt devices
The MJ2955A has better guaranteed gain (20 to 70 at 4 amps) than the MJ2955 (5 at 10 amps)

The MJE2955s are what we call plastic transistors and have lower power ratings.

You need to be a bit more careful about these since there are three versions with different pinouts.

The MJE2955 has a TO127 case and a guaranteed gain of 20 -70 at 4 amps and a power max of 90 watts. Pinout is E-C-B
The MJE2955T has a TO220 case and a guaranteed gain of 20 min at 4 amps and a power max of 75 watts. Pinout is B-C-E
The MJE2955K has a TO220 case and a guaranteed gain of 5 at 10 amps and a power max of 90 watts. Pinout is B-C-E

There are similar variations in the 3055 range

So check with your supplier if you get these.
I=V/R V=5v R =220, I=0.0227272727273 P=V*I = 5*0.022=0.113636363636
please step me through it If you have the time and this isn't correct.

(I'm using circuit from http://diyaudioprojects.com/Technical/Voltage-Regulator/)
 
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ISB123

Joined May 21, 2014
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We are not rectifying anything if your input in the power supply is pure DC.We are going to use the diode at the output to drop the voltage from 5.5V to 5V so you can use it for microcontrollers.
 

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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
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We are not rectifying anything if your input in the power supply is pure DC.We are going to use the diode at the output to drop the voltage from 5.5V to 5V so you can use it for microcontrollers.
yes, but how does that work? the DC block rating is 40V, and I believe that packaging is like a resistor.
 

ISB123

Joined May 21, 2014
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Diode blocks current only on one side. In case of Schottky's diode it has Forward voltage of 0,5V which means it going to turn on and let the current pass when you put more than 0.5V on it.So if you have 5,5V and you place diode in circuit its going to drop the the voltage by 0,5V since it needs it to turn on and pass the current.If you pass current from cathode towards anode its going to get blocked.
 

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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
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Diode blocks current only on one side. In case of Schottky's diode it has Forward voltage of 0,5V which means it going to turn on and let the current pass when you put more than 0.5V on it.So if you have 5,5V and you place diode in circuit its going to drop the the voltage by 0,5V since it needs it to turn on and pass the current.If you pass current from cathode towards anode its going to get blocked.
This is what we're looking for? :

Low forward voltage drop 0.525V max

Gets me to 4.986 (5.511- 0.525) but you're saying the voltage drop is 0.5V, is that where the "max" comes in after: Low forward voltage drop 0.525V *max*
 

ISB123

Joined May 21, 2014
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Yes,because it drops the voltage from 5,5v to ~5V which we need.If you use a pot you won't need the diode to get 5V since you can adjust the voltage but you will need to have VU meter to see the voltage.
 
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Chillum

Joined Nov 13, 2014
546
Ok, let me try again:

220+750=970
Voltage will drop over both, so its I= V/R=5/970=0.00515463917526 P=V*I=5*0.00515463917526=0.0257731958763
is that right?
 
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