No. Rural ND small town.Saving 400$ a month was that in California, I lived there for a bit a and the power bills where crazy.
No. Rural ND small town.Saving 400$ a month was that in California, I lived there for a bit a and the power bills where crazy.
Tcmtech that could happen with some old meters but its easy to meter according to absolute value of phase angle cuz it's basically just elf directional coupler I'm not sure about US but here in Canada industrial and commercial subscribers are liable for reactive _use_ but residential subscribers are exemptAs for charging by reactive power that's simple. With enough capacitance the reactive power can be pushed positive thus if a person loaded up their systems with enough capacitance their VAH meter Vs KWH meter would run backwards despite very little actual true wattage have been used.
So as a power supplier how would you factor my electric bill if I had a 200 watt baseload and 40 KVA of positive PF baseload running 24/7?
The individual private person isn't worth the time and effort to chase after.Tcmtech that could happen with some old meters but its easy to meter according to absolute value of phase angle cuz it's basically just elf directional coupler I'm not sure about US but here in Canada industrial and commercial subscribers are liable for reactive _use_ but residential subscribers are exempt
I wish the IRS shared that view!The individual private person isn't worth the time and effort to chase after.
The private person can't afford the costs of what it takes to get through all the loopholes it takes to be tax free at the end of the day.I wish the IRS shared that view!
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HP
+1000The private person can't afford the costs of what it takes to get through all the loopholes it takes to be tax free at the end of the day.
It's like how commercial rail and aviation are emissions exempt. They have the power to tell the government to take it's questionable regulations and go stuff itself.
Us individuals are too small to do that and by design too unorganized to band together and fight so we pay and pay and pay some more.
Well I guess power isn't just crazy expensive in CaliforniaNo. Rural ND small town.
That raises an interesting question - to wit: how much is 'crazy'? --- FWIW, around here (NE Mn) the residential rate averages a (modest?) $0.12/ kWh (Though my monthly usage often 'tops' 13,000 kWh)Saving 400$ a month was that in California, I lived there for a bit a and the power bills where crazy.
Maybe you need to turn a few of the 50 foot high fountains off that line your driveway.FWIW, around here (NE Mn) the residential rate averages a (modest?) $0.12/ kWh (Though my monthly usage often 'tops' 13,000 kWh)
No fountains along my drive -- just lots and lots of 'climate control' - Especially during the 'warm months' -- then too, I do so enjoy playing with electricityMaybe you need to turn a few of the 50 foot high fountains off that line your driveway.
Your place probably looks like Dr. Frankenstein's laboratory on some nights.I do so enjoy playing with electricity
YesIs that per month?
It's not as 'romantic' as all that -- The breakdown is essentially 24/7 compressor-run A/C during the summer months and 'bubblers' to prevent ice damage to my Fincantieri during the 'off season'... That said, I do have way too much fun with my radiography and 'reverse' operated distribution transformers (for which I was obliged to install an on site 1MW 3θ substation) --- Even so, my electrical experiments don't contribute much to my 'bill' considering such total perhaps a few hours use/hundreds of dollars per year at even full capacity (1 MW)...Your place probably looks like Dr. Frankenstein's laboratory on some nights.
Inasmuch as ≈ $0.11/kWh is the 'break even point' -- It seems you could do better with a gas 'fired' genny? -- I can vouch for GeneracOur power in California was 20 cents a KWH to keep it under 400$ we had to use a evaporative cooler and a cloths line, and in the winter a wood stove, not doing all that our power bill was 600$
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I'm sorry #12 -- but I'm with @Aleph(0) on this one! -- Inasmuch as you seem to appreciate Na spectra -- Be advised that a couple bags of emetine-laced Cheetos will set a strikingly similar 'mood' at even less cost!And my HPS lamps look like low pressure sodium, just to pinch a penny.
We had a electric well pump that was the big thing we also had two refrigerates and three box freezersAnything that pumps eats power: Swimming pool filters, lawn sprinklers, air conditioners, and those decorative fountains at HP's house.
Of those, I only have an air conditioner. Less that 1000KWh/month.
HP I say that tub of yours needs a veterinarian cuz it's just bulimic white elephant!to prevent ice damage to my Fincantieri during the 'off season'...
HP That's good idea if he's sure rate will hold until generator pays for itself cuz otherwise it's just a bad investment!Inasmuch as ≈ $0.11/kWh is the 'break even point' -- It seems you could do better with a gas 'fired' genny? -- I can vouch for Generac
HP Thanks for the visual NOT! -- Orange barf? Why not just say Donald Trump's makeup!?Inasmuch as you seem to appreciate Na spectra -- Be advised that a couple bags of emetine-laced Cheetos will set a strikingly similar 'mood' at even less cost!