Trimmer heating up

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paulepc

Joined Apr 2, 2014
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I have a variable .1 to .3 dc voltage into my op amp and need +/- 10 volt out so at .2 volts in I need zero out. this circuit does work, but the trimmer gets very hot.

I am not drawing much current, so why is the trimmer getting so warm?

Power supply +/- 12 volt 5 AMP

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Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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You could have nearly 24V across the trimmer, which would drive 24mA through it. That means the trimmer would dissipate ~576mW of power; so it's not surprising it gets hot! Use a higher value trimmer, e.g. 10k, 20k or 50k.
 

Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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I used a 1K to get finer control
The way you are using the trimmer to tap off the opamp output will give you the same degree of control regardless of its value. To get finer control you would normally connect a given resistance trimmer in series with a higher resistance fixed resistor; or else use a multi-turn trimmer.
 

BobTPH

Joined Jun 5, 2013
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Shouldn't the trimmer be connected to ground instead of -12V? That would help. But I agree, you should use a 10K trimmer. 1K is probably too low for the op amp output.

Bob
 

AnalogKid

Joined Aug 1, 2013
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The wiper needs to swing between +0.91V and -0.91V. This means that the pot must be at least 25% of the total resistance between amp 1's max output and -12V.

Also, you now are pulling 15.3 mA from amp 1's output worst case.

You can get greater adjustability, reduced stress on amp1, and lower pot current all by adding 2K to 3K in series with the low side of the pot.

ak
 

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paulepc

Joined Apr 2, 2014
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Low side? you mean between the -12 and the pot. I have put in 15K but can't get the centre volts. so thats where you get the 25% from am I on the right track?
Paul
 

AnalogKid

Joined Aug 1, 2013
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Yes, between the -12V and the pot. But lets back up a bit.

Is the pot a calibration adjustment or an operational adjustment? That is, is it set once to map the 0.1 - 0.3V input to +10V - +10V output, or is it routinely adjusted as part of the use of the circuit?

If the former, then I'm not sure howthis thing works. You need a DC gain of 100 and an input offset of -0.2V, but you have an amp gain of 121. So are you trying to get both gain and offset tweaks in one device?

ak
 

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paulepc

Joined Apr 2, 2014
55
Ok Thanks.
It is a set once and forget, I hope! I am using LM324N Quad Amp but using just 2 out of the 4 at present. I don't mind adding to the circuit to get it done properly, If you thick I need another stage I am happy to do that. I see you worked out the maths, I have not long started with electronics so finding my way, always open to advice.
Paul
 

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paulepc

Joined Apr 2, 2014
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Alec. On the circuit you have shown. My input has chaneged to 1.4 to 3.2 volts what needs changing in the circuit.

Paul
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paulepc

Joined Apr 2, 2014
55
Sorry Alec, I have confused the issue. What I was trying to say was that originally I was out putting .2 volts mid range. I have changed the software and I am now getting 1.4 to 3.2.
this is feeding into your circuit I have just completed, but due to the higher input I was asking what I need to change to cope with the new voltage I am generating.
Thanks Paul
 
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